[BigEasyCard]

Danielson wins and Stanford advances to play USC this afternoon! 

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

Danielson wins and Stanford advances to play USC this afternoon! 

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

Pairings for afternoon match are here:

http://golfstatresults.com/public/leader...7846&rid=2

Eijkenbloom up first for the Cardinal at 2:20 EDT.

Geaux Cardianl!

[BigEasyCard]

Pairings for afternoon match are here:

http://golfstatresults.com/public/leader...7846&rid=2

Eijkenbloom up first for the Cardinal at 2:20 EDT.

Geaux Cardianl!

[Spiny_Norman]

The match ups:

Karen Chung (#3) vs. Quirine Eijkenbooom (#5)

Amy Lee (#5) vs. Mariah Stackhouse (#1)

Annie Park (#2 player on USC and 2013 NCAA champ) vs. Shannon Aubert (#3)

Gabriella Then (#1) vs. Lauren Kim (#2)

Kyung Kim (#4) vs. Casey Danielson (#4)

[Spiny_Norman]

The match ups:

Karen Chung (#3) vs. Quirine Eijkenbooom (#5)

Amy Lee (#5) vs. Mariah Stackhouse (#1)

Annie Park (#2 player on USC and 2013 NCAA champ) vs. Shannon Aubert (#3)

Gabriella Then (#1) vs. Lauren Kim (#2)

Kyung Kim (#4) vs. Casey Danielson (#4)

[Farm93]

The match ups:

Karen Chung (#3) vs. Quirine Eijkenbooom (#5)

Amy Lee (#5) vs. Mariah Stackhouse (#1)

Annie Park (#2 player on U$€ and 2013 NCAA champ) vs. Shannon Aubert (#3)

Gabriella Then (#1) vs. Lauren Kim (#2)

Kyung Kim (#4) vs. Casey Danielson (#4)

To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that USC elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

 

[Farm93]

The match ups:

Karen Chung (#3) vs. Quirine Eijkenbooom (#5)

Amy Lee (#5) vs. Mariah Stackhouse (#1)

Annie Park (#2 player on U$€ and 2013 NCAA champ) vs. Shannon Aubert (#3)

Gabriella Then (#1) vs. Lauren Kim (#2)

Kyung Kim (#4) vs. Casey Danielson (#4)

To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that USC elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

 

[deepred]

To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that U$€ elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

How do the pairings get decided? Anyone know?

[deepred]

To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that U$€ elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

How do the pairings get decided? Anyone know?

[Farm93]

[quote author=Farm93 link=topic=12165.msg119035#msg119035 date=1432664563]


To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that U$€ elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

How do the pairings get decided? Anyone know?
[/quote]
I would imagine it is similar to other match play events.  Normally the coaches or captains take turns matching players.  Since this is match play, and it clearly has not been 1 v 1, 2 v 2 I suspect that holds here.  I am sure the Golf Channel will talk about it during the early holes this afternoon.

[Farm93]

[quote author=Farm93 link=topic=12165.msg119035#msg119035 date=1432664563]


To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that U$€ elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

How do the pairings get decided? Anyone know?
[/quote]
I would imagine it is similar to other match play events.  Normally the coaches or captains take turns matching players.  Since this is match play, and it clearly has not been 1 v 1, 2 v 2 I suspect that holds here.  I am sure the Golf Channel will talk about it during the early holes this afternoon.

[oldalum]

If you think your #5 is going to lose no matter what, smart strategy to put her against the other team's #1. But I'm curious how they got to execute this strategy, if it was intentional.

[oldalum]

If you think your #5 is going to lose no matter what, smart strategy to put her against the other team's #1. But I'm curious how they got to execute this strategy, if it was intentional.

[BigEasyCard]

Here's a video on the subject of match play pairings before the quarterfinals this morning: http://www.golfchannel.com/media/coffins...atch-play/

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

Here's a video on the subject of match play pairings before the quarterfinals this morning: http://www.golfchannel.com/media/coffins...atch-play/

Geaux Cardinal!

[CTcard]

[quote author=Farm93 link=topic=12165.msg119035#msg119035 date=1432664563]


To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that U$€ elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

How do the pairings get decided? Anyone know?
[/quote]

The following is from the NCAA women's golf participant manual:

The  Division  I  Women's  Golf  Committee  will  determine  match  play lineups using the same method employed at the President's Cup matches.  The higher seeded team (as determined through the 72-hole stroke-play portion), "Team 1", will have the first choice of putting a player on the board for Match #1. The opposing team, "Team 2", will then name its player for Match #1. Team 2 will then name its player for Match #2, and Team 1 will name its player for Match #2.  The process will continue in an "S" curve until the players for all five matches are named.  However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

Purely from the order that the pairings are listed, I would assume that S.-C. put up Chung(3) and Stanford matched with Eijkenboom(5) and that Stanford then put up Stackhouse(1) that S.-C. matched with Lee(5).

[CTcard]

[quote author=Farm93 link=topic=12165.msg119035#msg119035 date=1432664563]


To throw #5 against #1 is a curious tactic for a #1 team.  At least I assume that U$€ elected to match Lee against Stackhouse since I can't imagine Stanford wanted Stackhouse to face a #5.

How do the pairings get decided? Anyone know?
[/quote]

The following is from the NCAA women's golf participant manual:

The  Division  I  Women's  Golf  Committee  will  determine  match  play lineups using the same method employed at the President's Cup matches.  The higher seeded team (as determined through the 72-hole stroke-play portion), "Team 1", will have the first choice of putting a player on the board for Match #1. The opposing team, "Team 2", will then name its player for Match #1. Team 2 will then name its player for Match #2, and Team 1 will name its player for Match #2.  The process will continue in an "S" curve until the players for all five matches are named.  However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

Purely from the order that the pairings are listed, I would assume that S.-C. put up Chung(3) and Stanford matched with Eijkenboom(5) and that Stanford then put up Stackhouse(1) that S.-C. matched with Lee(5).

[Spiny_Norman]

However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

It is also possible that the USC coach deferred to Stanford and Coach Walker put up Eijkenboom first.

[Spiny_Norman]

However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

It is also possible that the USC coach deferred to Stanford and Coach Walker put up Eijkenboom first.

[Rally]

[quote author=CTcard link=topic=12165.msg119042#msg119042 date=1432665308]
However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

It is also possible that the U$€ coach deferred to Stanford and Coach Walker put up Eijkenboom first.
[/quote]


The best strategy seems to be trying to go second.

[Rally]

[quote author=CTcard link=topic=12165.msg119042#msg119042 date=1432665308]
However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

It is also possible that the U$€ coach deferred to Stanford and Coach Walker put up Eijkenboom first.
[/quote]


The best strategy seems to be trying to go second.

[BigEasyCard]

Eijkenboom and Stackhouse each 1-Up after first hole.

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

Eijkenboom and Stackhouse each 1-Up after first hole.

Geaux Cardinal!

[CTcard]

[quote author=CTcard link=topic=12165.msg119042#msg119042 date=1432665308]
However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

It is also possible that the U$€ coach deferred to Stanford and Coach Walker put up Eijkenboom first.
[/quote]

Quite possible. Though that would mean that Stanford intentionally matched Stackhouse with Lee.

FWIW the video linked above says that the S.-C. coach didn't defer in the first round. Don't know if that is supposed to be a pattern or not. 

[CTcard]

[quote author=CTcard link=topic=12165.msg119042#msg119042 date=1432665308]
However, Team 1 may defer in the selection process and permit Team 2 to begin the overall selection process.

It is also possible that the U$€ coach deferred to Stanford and Coach Walker put up Eijkenboom first.
[/quote]

Quite possible. Though that would mean that Stanford intentionally matched Stackhouse with Lee.

FWIW the video linked above says that the S.-C. coach didn't defer in the first round. Don't know if that is supposed to be a pattern or not. 

[Hulk01]

Edge to SC in the matchups, perhaps.  Their #2 vs our #3 , #1 vs. our #2, and #3 vs. our #5. And their #4 finished at 303, while ours, Danielson, posted a 324. 

You figure to Stackhouse to win in a rout, and maybe call Kim vs. Then even, but the first and fifth matches look like walkovers.  If we win one of those, a much different story.

But Vegat must be calling this 3-1-i for the bad guys.

[Hulk01]

Edge to SC in the matchups, perhaps.  Their #2 vs our #3 , #1 vs. our #2, and #3 vs. our #5. And their #4 finished at 303, while ours, Danielson, posted a 324. 

You figure to Stackhouse to win in a rout, and maybe call Kim vs. Then even, but the first and fifth matches look like walkovers.  If we win one of those, a much different story.

But Vegat must be calling this 3-1-i for the bad guys.

[Spiny_Norman]

Edge to SC in the matchups, perhaps.  Their #2 vs our #3 , #1 vs. our #2, and #3 vs. our #5. And their #4 finished at 303, while ours, Danielson, posted a 324. 

You figure to Stackhouse to win in a rout, and maybe call Kim vs. Then even, but the first and fifth matches look like walkovers.  If we win one of those, a much different story.

But Vegas must be calling this 3-1-i for the bad guys.

Since you cited Vegas, I'll use a gambling metaphor.  Stanford is playing with house money.  No one expected them in the final 4.  All pressure is on USC which has been #1 ranked all year.  Go Cardinal!!

[Spiny_Norman]

Edge to SC in the matchups, perhaps.  Their #2 vs our #3 , #1 vs. our #2, and #3 vs. our #5. And their #4 finished at 303, while ours, Danielson, posted a 324. 

You figure to Stackhouse to win in a rout, and maybe call Kim vs. Then even, but the first and fifth matches look like walkovers.  If we win one of those, a much different story.

But Vegas must be calling this 3-1-i for the bad guys.

Since you cited Vegas, I'll use a gambling metaphor.  Stanford is playing with house money.  No one expected them in the final 4.  All pressure is on USC which has been #1 ranked all year.  Go Cardinal!!

[oldalum]

seems like if you put your top player on the board early as the first player of a matchup, you open up the door for SC to pull what it did. Might our coach have gotten outfoxed?

[oldalum]

seems like if you put your top player on the board early as the first player of a matchup, you open up the door for SC to pull what it did. Might our coach have gotten outfoxed?

[fullmetal]

Only if Stanford loses.  If Stanford wins, the coach is brilliantly confident in the team's execution ;p

[fullmetal]

Only if Stanford loses.  If Stanford wins, the coach is brilliantly confident in the team's execution ;p

[Stymie]

There is little to choose between the two teams (or between any combination of players in any possible mathups) in match play.  At this level #1s will lose to #5s much more often than in tennis or track and field.  Who wins in each match depends more on grit than ranking.  From what I've "seen" so far, our woman have a helluva a lot of grit.

Geaux Ladies!

[Stymie]

There is little to choose between the two teams (or between any combination of players in any possible mathups) in match play.  At this level #1s will lose to #5s much more often than in tennis or track and field.  Who wins in each match depends more on grit than ranking.  From what I've "seen" so far, our woman have a helluva a lot of grit.

Geaux Ladies!

[Hulk01]

If we can hold on--tiny early leads in match play are almost not leads at all, but every stroke helps--Duke looks like a lock to be our opponent.  Everyone should feel free to hate them; they are the Kentucky basketball of women's college sports.

They have one American on the team, if you think of Canada as America. The rest are from Ireland (two sisters), Indian, China, and South Korea.  (I'd be interested, honestly, to learn if the Korean woman speaks English well.  Aside from Grace Park, I don't recall meeting a South Korean pro golfer who understood more than a few pat English expression.  At LPGA meetings, the South Koreans other than Park all gathered in a back row around their interpreter, not even looking at the speakers.  (Which, as you also may have guessed, included me a couple times.)

Point being, I hope it's clear, that these Dukies are not one and gones, but hired guns.  (And it's a good bet that one or more of them won't stick around for the mortar board stuff.)

Okay, ahead of myself and perhaps destined to be accused of hexing our ladies, who are leading 1 up, 1 up, 1 up and two up with one all square.  But I wanted to pitch my fork into the Devils as soon as possible. 

[Hulk01]

If we can hold on--tiny early leads in match play are almost not leads at all, but every stroke helps--Duke looks like a lock to be our opponent.  Everyone should feel free to hate them; they are the Kentucky basketball of women's college sports.

They have one American on the team, if you think of Canada as America. The rest are from Ireland (two sisters), Indian, China, and South Korea.  (I'd be interested, honestly, to learn if the Korean woman speaks English well.  Aside from Grace Park, I don't recall meeting a South Korean pro golfer who understood more than a few pat English expression.  At LPGA meetings, the South Koreans other than Park all gathered in a back row around their interpreter, not even looking at the speakers.  (Which, as you also may have guessed, included me a couple times.)

Point being, I hope it's clear, that these Dukies are not one and gones, but hired guns.  (And it's a good bet that one or more of them won't stick around for the mortar board stuff.)

Okay, ahead of myself and perhaps destined to be accused of hexing our ladies, who are leading 1 up, 1 up, 1 up and two up with one all square.  But I wanted to pitch my fork into the Devils as soon as possible. 

[yvonne]

They have one American on the team, if you think of Canada as America.

Find me a single Canadian who does.

[yvonne]

They have one American on the team, if you think of Canada as America.

Find me a single Canadian who does.