[SamuelMcF]

Someone seized the means of production.

Speaking of seizing things, when are we gonna seize another commit? Any Utah players gonna watch us smash the hometown team to a pulp?

[SamuelMcF]

Someone seized the means of production.

Speaking of seizing things, when are we gonna seize another commit? Any Utah players gonna watch us smash the hometown team to a pulp?

[Hank 91]

All Utah prospects come to Stanford. It's a rule. So I assume there will be some in attendance.

[Hank 91]

All Utah prospects come to Stanford. It's a rule. So I assume there will be some in attendance.

[SamuelMcF]

WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/...7284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

[SamuelMcF]

WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/...7284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

[gocard14]

Incidentally, what does a high school FB need to do to get more then 3*? Pancake 3 people/play? I get the feeling we get pretty much our pick of the nations top FBs that are academically eligible, and none of them can get past the low 3* range. This is clearly a position where stars and skills don’t align.

[gocard14]

Incidentally, what does a high school FB need to do to get more then 3*? Pancake 3 people/play? I get the feeling we get pretty much our pick of the nations top FBs that are academically eligible, and none of them can get past the low 3* range. This is clearly a position where stars and skills don’t align.

[Mick]

Incidentally, what does a high school FB need to do to get more then 3*? Pancake 3 people/play? I get the feeling we get pretty much our pick of the nations top FBs that are academically eligible, and none of them can get past the low 3* range. This is clearly a position where stars and skills don’t align.

Tom Rathman, played for the Cornhuskers, had a 6-7 foot high jump in high school, also won a low hurdles race. That oughta do it.

http://dataomaha.com/neb100/player/56

[Mick]

Incidentally, what does a high school FB need to do to get more then 3*? Pancake 3 people/play? I get the feeling we get pretty much our pick of the nations top FBs that are academically eligible, and none of them can get past the low 3* range. This is clearly a position where stars and skills don’t align.

Tom Rathman, played for the Cornhuskers, had a 6-7 foot high jump in high school, also won a low hurdles race. That oughta do it.

http://dataomaha.com/neb100/player/56

[BobK]

https://mobile.twitter.com/stanfordfb/st...1534527489

[BobK]

https://mobile.twitter.com/stanfordfb/st...1534527489

[BostonCard]

Seriously, a center named Hayden Center?  Talk about an apropos name.

BC

[BostonCard]

Seriously, a center named Hayden Center?  Talk about an apropos name.

BC

[BigEasyCard]

WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/...7284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

Creative recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Bolt/Wiltfongs-Wee...-108725520

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/...7284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

Creative recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Bolt/Wiltfongs-Wee...-108725520

Geaux Cardinal!

[TreesAndBirds]

[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=12112.msg205157#msg205157 date=1507481018]
WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/...7284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

Creative recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Bolt/Wiltfongs-Wee...-108725520

Geaux Cardinal!
[/quote]

And in case anyone missed this at the bottom of the article....

"Recent 247Sports Crystal Ball forecasts include...

Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Notre Dame."

[TreesAndBirds]

[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=12112.msg205157#msg205157 date=1507481018]
WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/...7284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

Creative recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Bolt/Wiltfongs-Wee...-108725520

Geaux Cardinal!
[/quote]

And in case anyone missed this at the bottom of the article....

"Recent 247Sports Crystal Ball forecasts include...

Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Notre Dame."

[OutsiderFan]

Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.

[OutsiderFan]

Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.

[French Rage]

[quote author=TreesAndBirds link=topic=12112.msg205807#msg205807 date=1507757322]
Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.
[/quote]

Or he could be an ironman and do both!  (I kid, I kid.)

[French Rage]

[quote author=TreesAndBirds link=topic=12112.msg205807#msg205807 date=1507757322]
Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.
[/quote]

Or he could be an ironman and do both!  (I kid, I kid.)

[ChicagoCard]

Article on Tobe Umerah...

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn...ord-commit

[ChicagoCard]

Article on Tobe Umerah...

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn...ord-commit

[washingtonismoney]

Article on Tobe Umerah...

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn...ord-commit

Typical admissions hedging.

[washingtonismoney]

Article on Tobe Umerah...

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn...ord-commit

Typical admissions hedging.

[OutsiderFan]

I have not thought of LB Dax Hollifield as a legit possibility for the last couple months, but this latest Rivals story suggests Stanford is right in the thick of it for him, especially since he is coming for the big visit weekend.

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals250-lb-d...ing-visits

[OutsiderFan]

I have not thought of LB Dax Hollifield as a legit possibility for the last couple months, but this latest Rivals story suggests Stanford is right in the thick of it for him, especially since he is coming for the big visit weekend.

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals250-lb-d...ing-visits

[Hank 91]

[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=12112.msg205812#msg205812 date=1507758573]
[quote author=TreesAndBirds link=topic=12112.msg205807#msg205807 date=1507757322]
Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.
[/quote]

Or he could be an ironman and do both!  (I kid, I kid.)
[/quote]

On a serious note -- anyone know the last time someone played offensive and defensive line for a contending team?

[Hank 91]

[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=12112.msg205812#msg205812 date=1507758573]
[quote author=TreesAndBirds link=topic=12112.msg205807#msg205807 date=1507757322]
Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.
[/quote]

Or he could be an ironman and do both!  (I kid, I kid.)
[/quote]

On a serious note -- anyone know the last time someone played offensive and defensive line for a contending team?

[Bruce Wang]

On a serious note -- anyone know the last time someone played offensive and defensive line for a contending team?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf.../97483748/

Don't know if he played both ways in an actual game with meaningful number of snaps on both sides of the ball.  It would be insane in this day and age.  Think about how crazy it was that Marecic played LB and FB.  A lineman gets contact on every play.

The same Google search turned up this:
https://books.google.com/books?id=y65iAw...an&f=false

Apparently Anthony Munoz played two ways.

[Bruce Wang]

On a serious note -- anyone know the last time someone played offensive and defensive line for a contending team?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf.../97483748/

Don't know if he played both ways in an actual game with meaningful number of snaps on both sides of the ball.  It would be insane in this day and age.  Think about how crazy it was that Marecic played LB and FB.  A lineman gets contact on every play.

The same Google search turned up this:
https://books.google.com/books?id=y65iAw...an&f=false

Apparently Anthony Munoz played two ways.

[martyup]

In HS, I played every play of every game unless I got hurt.  That's kickoff, kickoff receiving, punt, punt receiving, offense, defense, PAT, and PAT defense.  I'm sure that many HS players do the same.  I played for a California single A school.  I only missed one quarter of one game because of injury, which I suffered riding a bull in a HS rodeo.  My football coach was pretty angry about that.

[martyup]

In HS, I played every play of every game unless I got hurt.  That's kickoff, kickoff receiving, punt, punt receiving, offense, defense, PAT, and PAT defense.  I'm sure that many HS players do the same.  I played for a California single A school.  I only missed one quarter of one game because of injury, which I suffered riding a bull in a HS rodeo.  My football coach was pretty angry about that.

[PalmTree]

In HS, I played every play of every game unless I got hurt.  That's kickoff, kickoff receiving, punt, punt receiving, offense, defense, PAT, and PAT defense.  I'm sure that many HS players do the same.  I played for a California single A school.  I only missed one quarter of one game because of injury, which I suffered riding a bull in a HS rodeo.  My football coach was pretty angry about that.

...sounds like he didn't take any bull from you after that...

Seriously though, props to you...that's pretty nuts playing that much.  I went to a smaller high school in Hawaii and we had ~4-5 guys playing both ways but I don't remember any of them having to pull punt + kickoff duty in addition to that - maybe one of those for the speedy guys, but not both. 

[PalmTree]

In HS, I played every play of every game unless I got hurt.  That's kickoff, kickoff receiving, punt, punt receiving, offense, defense, PAT, and PAT defense.  I'm sure that many HS players do the same.  I played for a California single A school.  I only missed one quarter of one game because of injury, which I suffered riding a bull in a HS rodeo.  My football coach was pretty angry about that.

...sounds like he didn't take any bull from you after that...

Seriously though, props to you...that's pretty nuts playing that much.  I went to a smaller high school in Hawaii and we had ~4-5 guys playing both ways but I don't remember any of them having to pull punt + kickoff duty in addition to that - maybe one of those for the speedy guys, but not both. 

[gocard14]

I was also at a smaller HS and played pretty much every snap until senior year, when we had enough depth to rotate Dlineman and get off kickoff return team.

I think O and Dline is doable from an endurance standpoint at the college level (assuming rotating snaps on the DL) but both require such technical precision that it would be very tough to master both skill sets. The body types also tend to be a little different as the typical nose guard would be a bit oversized for an Olineman while the DEs would be undersized.

[gocard14]

I was also at a smaller HS and played pretty much every snap until senior year, when we had enough depth to rotate Dlineman and get off kickoff return team.

I think O and Dline is doable from an endurance standpoint at the college level (assuming rotating snaps on the DL) but both require such technical precision that it would be very tough to master both skill sets. The body types also tend to be a little different as the typical nose guard would be a bit oversized for an Olineman while the DEs would be undersized.

[martyup]

I was also at a smaller HS and played pretty much every snap until senior year, when we had enough depth to rotate Dlineman and get off kickoff return team.

I think O and Dline is doable from an endurance standpoint at the college level (assuming rotating snaps on the DL) but both require such technical precision that it would be very tough to master both skill sets. The body types also tend to be a little different as the typical nose guard would be a bit oversized for an Olineman while the DEs would be undersized.

I played FB and OLB.  On kickoff receiving I played mid-field.  At FB, I mostly was a lead blocker on runs and a pass blocker on passes.  I had to get into really good cardio shape to do it, but I never felt winded when the ball was snapped.  Of course, none of our opponents played with hurry-up offenses.  I was pretty sore on Saturdays, though.  And, of course, all of our HS rodeos were on Saturdays.  :-\

[martyup]

I was also at a smaller HS and played pretty much every snap until senior year, when we had enough depth to rotate Dlineman and get off kickoff return team.

I think O and Dline is doable from an endurance standpoint at the college level (assuming rotating snaps on the DL) but both require such technical precision that it would be very tough to master both skill sets. The body types also tend to be a little different as the typical nose guard would be a bit oversized for an Olineman while the DEs would be undersized.

I played FB and OLB.  On kickoff receiving I played mid-field.  At FB, I mostly was a lead blocker on runs and a pass blocker on passes.  I had to get into really good cardio shape to do it, but I never felt winded when the ball was snapped.  Of course, none of our opponents played with hurry-up offenses.  I was pretty sore on Saturdays, though.  And, of course, all of our HS rodeos were on Saturdays.  :-\