[FarmBoy]

Missionaries do not typically become romantically involved while on their missions, and when they do, it is typically neither permanent nor with a girl.

Romance on the mission can happen in several ways. The messaging is very clear to missionaries (and anyone in the LDS church) that the path to eternal happiness is through a marriage in the Mormon temple. Missionaries are constantly reminded of that fact and this intense period in their lives makes them further invested. They may get romantically attached to a girl back home. Or there could be a female missionary they hit it off with (full disclosure, my father married one of the woman missionaries from his mission. They actually went on pseudo double dates as they were with their "partners"). Or they could meet someone in their missionary area. I'm not saying they "hook up" while on their mission (though some clearly do), but it lays the groundwork for them to pick up the phone once they've returned. It also makes them think about how important it is to find a Mormon spouse and where better to do that than at BYU?

[FarmBoy]

Missionaries do not typically become romantically involved while on their missions, and when they do, it is typically neither permanent nor with a girl.

Romance on the mission can happen in several ways. The messaging is very clear to missionaries (and anyone in the LDS church) that the path to eternal happiness is through a marriage in the Mormon temple. Missionaries are constantly reminded of that fact and this intense period in their lives makes them further invested. They may get romantically attached to a girl back home. Or there could be a female missionary they hit it off with (full disclosure, my father married one of the woman missionaries from his mission. They actually went on pseudo double dates as they were with their "partners"). Or they could meet someone in their missionary area. I'm not saying they "hook up" while on their mission (though some clearly do), but it lays the groundwork for them to pick up the phone once they've returned. It also makes them think about how important it is to find a Mormon spouse and where better to do that than at BYU?

[Redrum]

This is what I actually posted.

  I'd think BYU would be the beneficiary.  But this is a view from the outside and some posters recently slammed my paranoia by pointing out , IIRC, that Taysom Hill is the only defector in recent times compared to a robust list of LDS commits who did return to Stanford after their missions. But I still believe the risk of a change of heart,  if only through acute homesickness, and the Utah schools are not dead yet even if he commits to us.

And with that freely visible just a couple of posts above his, this is what Garvin claims I said:

I was merely correcting the predictably foolish view of Redrum, the victim of ingesting too much fireant poison over the years, that the missions are advantageous to Stanford. I think they're risky.

It's sad, but  defensive backs and old field reporters lose a step over time.  Maybe it's time for more fact checking and less cowbell in Garvin's posts.  But he got the part about my ingesting fire ant poison right. Tastes like a D-cell battery marinated in nail polish remover, BTW.  I'll just point out that despite the hopes of many,  I have yet to be attacked by fire ants. quod erat demonstrandum

[Redrum]

This is what I actually posted.

  I'd think BYU would be the beneficiary.  But this is a view from the outside and some posters recently slammed my paranoia by pointing out , IIRC, that Taysom Hill is the only defector in recent times compared to a robust list of LDS commits who did return to Stanford after their missions. But I still believe the risk of a change of heart,  if only through acute homesickness, and the Utah schools are not dead yet even if he commits to us.

And with that freely visible just a couple of posts above his, this is what Garvin claims I said:

I was merely correcting the predictably foolish view of Redrum, the victim of ingesting too much fireant poison over the years, that the missions are advantageous to Stanford. I think they're risky.

It's sad, but  defensive backs and old field reporters lose a step over time.  Maybe it's time for more fact checking and less cowbell in Garvin's posts.  But he got the part about my ingesting fire ant poison right. Tastes like a D-cell battery marinated in nail polish remover, BTW.  I'll just point out that despite the hopes of many,  I have yet to be attacked by fire ants. quod erat demonstrandum

[CTcard]

Not a bad thing to have more mature guys coming back to Stanford after their LDS mission, but looking at it from our earth-bound, secular interest,  we need contributors on the DL now 2015 and 16/17.

DL is an issue.

For 2015 it is very unlikely that anybody in this recruiting class is particularly relevant. Rarely do linemen play a major role in true frosh seasons. There are exceptions, but those are rare and it's even more rare for us to get those guys on the DL.

Though I guess the most recent class provides points pro and con. Solomon Thomas was the most highly regarded DL recruit we've had in a while - Scout #20 overall (all positions), Rivals #37 overall. Yet he redshirted year 1. Countering that was Harrison Phillips. Not nearly as highly regarded by the rating services (though clearly highly regarded by our coaches) and somewhat undersized, he did end up contributing. Now he only played because of injuries and can't quite be called a major player of 2014 - but perhaps he would have been in a weaker-DL year.

Nonetheless, we're thin but okay in the number of DL bodies in 2015 - I count 8 plus any incoming (frosh plus perhaps the elder Scarlett?). Only 2 are listed as DT (Callihan, Yazdi) but we've seen both Shittu and Phillips in that role previously. But not a one has played a major role on our defense so far, with Shittu coming closest. So development there is a must - but unlikely the immediate help would come from guys currently in high school.

Four of those guys are definitely done after 2015, with apparently two frosh coming in, it looks like the numbers will be scarier in 2016. That's where we may wish for guys enrolling now rather than two years later.
May not quite be an issue in Reid's case as most seem to project him as an OLB at Stanford - we have a few more of those guys.

[CTcard]

Not a bad thing to have more mature guys coming back to Stanford after their LDS mission, but looking at it from our earth-bound, secular interest,  we need contributors on the DL now 2015 and 16/17.

DL is an issue.

For 2015 it is very unlikely that anybody in this recruiting class is particularly relevant. Rarely do linemen play a major role in true frosh seasons. There are exceptions, but those are rare and it's even more rare for us to get those guys on the DL.

Though I guess the most recent class provides points pro and con. Solomon Thomas was the most highly regarded DL recruit we've had in a while - Scout #20 overall (all positions), Rivals #37 overall. Yet he redshirted year 1. Countering that was Harrison Phillips. Not nearly as highly regarded by the rating services (though clearly highly regarded by our coaches) and somewhat undersized, he did end up contributing. Now he only played because of injuries and can't quite be called a major player of 2014 - but perhaps he would have been in a weaker-DL year.

Nonetheless, we're thin but okay in the number of DL bodies in 2015 - I count 8 plus any incoming (frosh plus perhaps the elder Scarlett?). Only 2 are listed as DT (Callihan, Yazdi) but we've seen both Shittu and Phillips in that role previously. But not a one has played a major role on our defense so far, with Shittu coming closest. So development there is a must - but unlikely the immediate help would come from guys currently in high school.

Four of those guys are definitely done after 2015, with apparently two frosh coming in, it looks like the numbers will be scarier in 2016. That's where we may wish for guys enrolling now rather than two years later.
May not quite be an issue in Reid's case as most seem to project him as an OLB at Stanford - we have a few more of those guys.

[Redrum]

Not that we'd notice looking at participation stats from 2014.

[Redrum]

Not that we'd notice looking at participation stats from 2014.

[Nan3cy]

It's always great to get the perspective of student athletes and their families. Keep in mind, CardBoard members, that the rules for contact with prospective student athletes are different from those for student athletes who are already enrolled.

Please take a minute to review the post above, which specifies permissible contact with both prospective student athletes and enrolled students.

Wouldn't the rules change after the athlete signs a letter of intent?

[Nan3cy]

It's always great to get the perspective of student athletes and their families. Keep in mind, CardBoard members, that the rules for contact with prospective student athletes are different from those for student athletes who are already enrolled.

Please take a minute to review the post above, which specifies permissible contact with both prospective student athletes and enrolled students.

Wouldn't the rules change after the athlete signs a letter of intent?

[admin]

No, surprisingly. The athletic department usually tweets to that effect on NSD. The student athletes are still considered prospective student athletes until they enroll.

[admin]

No, surprisingly. The athletic department usually tweets to that effect on NSD. The student athletes are still considered prospective student athletes until they enroll.

[yvonne]

http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/basketba...nt-athlete

[yvonne]

http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/basketba...nt-athlete

[CTcard]

Not that we'd notice looking at participation stats from 2014.

On the official site they have a roster for 2015. I think it went up yesterday, because when I went to look for the roster that web page was empty for awhile.

For DL positions they have the following:
DE = Kaumatule, Lohn, Phillips, Shittu, Thomas, Watkins.
DT = Callihan, Yazdi.

That would appear to indicate that Callihan will be somewhere around next fall. The bio notes state he appeared in two games in 2014.

I did notice Yazdi "on the field" a lot in a weird way at the FF Bowl. It seems that after a change of possession, he would go onto the field, hop around a lot, then run off the field before the first play started. Looked very weird to me.

Don't know if that happened during the season, as I cannot make it to many games.

[CTcard]

Not that we'd notice looking at participation stats from 2014.

On the official site they have a roster for 2015. I think it went up yesterday, because when I went to look for the roster that web page was empty for awhile.

For DL positions they have the following:
DE = Kaumatule, Lohn, Phillips, Shittu, Thomas, Watkins.
DT = Callihan, Yazdi.

That would appear to indicate that Callihan will be somewhere around next fall. The bio notes state he appeared in two games in 2014.

I did notice Yazdi "on the field" a lot in a weird way at the FF Bowl. It seems that after a change of possession, he would go onto the field, hop around a lot, then run off the field before the first play started. Looked very weird to me.

Don't know if that happened during the season, as I cannot make it to many games.

[terry]

I did notice Yazdi "on the field" a lot in a weird way at the FF Bowl. It seems that after a change of possession, he would go onto the field, hop around a lot, then run off the field before the first play started. Looked very weird to me.

Don't know if that happened during the season, as I cannot make it to many games.

What you saw with Yazdi is the typical substitution pattern for our nickel defense. We will send 12 men out on the field on defense after a change of possession. If the opponent comes out with 2 wide receivers, we stay in the base defense and the 5th defensive back comes off the field. If the opponent comes out with 3 wide receivers, we go to the nickel defense and the nose tackle comes off the field.

The jumping around probably had something to do with how cold it was . . .

[terry]

I did notice Yazdi "on the field" a lot in a weird way at the FF Bowl. It seems that after a change of possession, he would go onto the field, hop around a lot, then run off the field before the first play started. Looked very weird to me.

Don't know if that happened during the season, as I cannot make it to many games.

What you saw with Yazdi is the typical substitution pattern for our nickel defense. We will send 12 men out on the field on defense after a change of possession. If the opponent comes out with 2 wide receivers, we stay in the base defense and the 5th defensive back comes off the field. If the opponent comes out with 3 wide receivers, we go to the nickel defense and the nose tackle comes off the field.

The jumping around probably had something to do with how cold it was . . .

[CTcard]

What you saw with Yazdi is the typical substitution pattern for our nickel defense. We will send 12 men out on the field on defense after a change of possession. If the opponent comes out with 2 wide receivers, we stay in the base defense and the 5th defensive back comes off the field. If the opponent comes out with 3 wide receivers, we go to the nickel defense and the nose tackle comes off the field.

The jumping around probably had something to do with how cold it was . . .

Or maybe Yazdi is just irrepressible?

Thanks for the info.
My memory is fading too fast to remember just what part of the game I started noticing Yazdi doing this. It seemed to me to be rather early - early enough that it stood out to me as strange it was Yazdi hopping on and off the field. 
From your comments I would guess that would typically be David Parry going through this routine - perhaps minus the jumping around?

[CTcard]

What you saw with Yazdi is the typical substitution pattern for our nickel defense. We will send 12 men out on the field on defense after a change of possession. If the opponent comes out with 2 wide receivers, we stay in the base defense and the 5th defensive back comes off the field. If the opponent comes out with 3 wide receivers, we go to the nickel defense and the nose tackle comes off the field.

The jumping around probably had something to do with how cold it was . . .

Or maybe Yazdi is just irrepressible?

Thanks for the info.
My memory is fading too fast to remember just what part of the game I started noticing Yazdi doing this. It seemed to me to be rather early - early enough that it stood out to me as strange it was Yazdi hopping on and off the field. 
From your comments I would guess that would typically be David Parry going through this routine - perhaps minus the jumping around?