[Treebound]

There's more left in the tank and more left in the playbook.  That being said, this is the biggest game of the year for ASU.  If they are going to make a statement, this is the game to show the nation now that they are ranked.  It's a quiet week for CFB, but looking forward to having FOX on Angel Field.

My prediction:

Stanford:        31
Solar Satans:  20

[Treebound]

There's more left in the tank and more left in the playbook.  That being said, this is the biggest game of the year for ASU.  If they are going to make a statement, this is the game to show the nation now that they are ranked.  It's a quiet week for CFB, but looking forward to having FOX on Angel Field.

My prediction:

Stanford:        31
Solar Satans:  20

[Leftcoast]

You would consider going to the Fiesta Bowl and beating a one loss or even an undefeated team as unsuccessful? - Oman

I guess you are thinking of a scenario where Stanford loses either to Oregon (and thus the Pac 12 North) or in the Pac 12 championship but still has enough BCS chops to be invited to the Fiesta Bowl?

That's certainly not failure but I'm hoping for more given the talent level coming into the 2013 season.  I believe this Stanford team has the talent to establish that winning the Pac 12 in 2012 was not a fluke and winning the Rose Bowl berth does that.

So while a Fiesta Bowl invite would be good it also means we didn't win the Pac 12 with a loaded team.  I'd classify it as a B+ result against my hopes for this year even as I celebrate our 4th straight BCS appearance.  I can see how some would say my expectations have grown too high but this is a special time for Stanford football and I want to see the team continuing to maximize their potential.  Of course this is also another example of how far our expectations have grown in the last 10 years.

(By the way, I think we probably have at least one NC beauty contest disqualifying loss coming - I just hope it's not to Oregon and not in the Pac 12 championship.)

[Leftcoast]

You would consider going to the Fiesta Bowl and beating a one loss or even an undefeated team as unsuccessful? - Oman

I guess you are thinking of a scenario where Stanford loses either to Oregon (and thus the Pac 12 North) or in the Pac 12 championship but still has enough BCS chops to be invited to the Fiesta Bowl?

That's certainly not failure but I'm hoping for more given the talent level coming into the 2013 season.  I believe this Stanford team has the talent to establish that winning the Pac 12 in 2012 was not a fluke and winning the Rose Bowl berth does that.

So while a Fiesta Bowl invite would be good it also means we didn't win the Pac 12 with a loaded team.  I'd classify it as a B+ result against my hopes for this year even as I celebrate our 4th straight BCS appearance.  I can see how some would say my expectations have grown too high but this is a special time for Stanford football and I want to see the team continuing to maximize their potential.  Of course this is also another example of how far our expectations have grown in the last 10 years.

(By the way, I think we probably have at least one NC beauty contest disqualifying loss coming - I just hope it's not to Oregon and not in the Pac 12 championship.)

[Card Fan in OR]

Stanford  36                ASU  24


Offense starts to open up a bit and click.

[Card Fan in OR]

Stanford  36                ASU  24


Offense starts to open up a bit and click.

[godfire]

Both sides of the ball struggle in the first half, confirming some fears from the Army game. Play improves in the second half. Stanford 27, ASU 21

[godfire]

Both sides of the ball struggle in the first half, confirming some fears from the Army game. Play improves in the second half. Stanford 27, ASU 21

[needle]

Stanford 45
ASU 7

[needle]

Stanford 45
ASU 7

[Cardinal96]

On the national title front, I will echo what was said above.  With our strength of schedule, I can only see an undefeated SEC team in front of an undefeated Stanford.  We will blow any ACC or Big Ten team out of the water with respect to computer rankings.  If we go undefeated, we could even pass Bama as we will have a much tougher schedule.

[Cardinal96]

On the national title front, I will echo what was said above.  With our strength of schedule, I can only see an undefeated SEC team in front of an undefeated Stanford.  We will blow any ACC or Big Ten team out of the water with respect to computer rankings.  If we go undefeated, we could even pass Bama as we will have a much tougher schedule.

[needle]

Too early to make that call, NYCCardinalFan. Clemson could have wins over Georgia (mission accomplished), Fla. State, South Carolina and, in the ACC title came, Miami. Yes, the rest of their schedule is really weak, but if Georgia and Miami/Fla. State somehow look really, really good, Clemson would have a pretty strong argument.

[needle]

Too early to make that call, NYCCardinalFan. Clemson could have wins over Georgia (mission accomplished), Fla. State, South Carolina and, in the ACC title came, Miami. Yes, the rest of their schedule is really weak, but if Georgia and Miami/Fla. State somehow look really, really good, Clemson would have a pretty strong argument.

[81alum]

Stanford 27 ASU 17

[81alum]

Stanford 27 ASU 17

[washingtonismoney]

If we win out, we'll be in. Why? An undefeated power-conference team has only been left out of the national championship game once -- Auburn. While a lot of teams theoretically look to be in strong position for an undefeated run, there will only be 1 or 2 by the end of the regular season, because there almost always is. Strength of schedule is almost irrelevant in this scenario...

Now, if we want to argue about the 1-loss scenario, then strength of schedule might become irrelevant. But then again, it might. It all depends on what the media/coaches decide on their "Random Decisions Wheel of Fortune." It's similar to the Voldemort Trophy. In 2009 we were informed it was absolutely necessary for the winner to come from a team that had high-level national success, like Alabama's Mark Ingram. (Forget Tim Tebow, we were told.) In 2012, we were told that the best player should be rewarded without consideration of the team's success. These kinds of decisions in college football have always been arbitrary and always will be. There's no use in stressing about it.

(31-21)

[washingtonismoney]

If we win out, we'll be in. Why? An undefeated power-conference team has only been left out of the national championship game once -- Auburn. While a lot of teams theoretically look to be in strong position for an undefeated run, there will only be 1 or 2 by the end of the regular season, because there almost always is. Strength of schedule is almost irrelevant in this scenario...

Now, if we want to argue about the 1-loss scenario, then strength of schedule might become irrelevant. But then again, it might. It all depends on what the media/coaches decide on their "Random Decisions Wheel of Fortune." It's similar to the Voldemort Trophy. In 2009 we were informed it was absolutely necessary for the winner to come from a team that had high-level national success, like Alabama's Mark Ingram. (Forget Tim Tebow, we were told.) In 2012, we were told that the best player should be rewarded without consideration of the team's success. These kinds of decisions in college football have always been arbitrary and always will be. There's no use in stressing about it.

(31-21)

[dabigv13]

34 - 17 good guys

Gaffney, Wilkerson, Kuamatele, Reynolds TDs

[dabigv13]

34 - 17 good guys

Gaffney, Wilkerson, Kuamatele, Reynolds TDs

[CochinoJanks]

Stanford = 34
ASU =27

Back and forth TDs and FGs.
1s are in the entire game.
This is a Cardiac Stress Test!

[CochinoJanks]

Stanford = 34
ASU =27

Back and forth TDs and FGs.
1s are in the entire game.
This is a Cardiac Stress Test!

[Farm93]

ASU's D is not in great shape, and at least when wearing black they looked small.  Unlike the OOC opponent, winning impressively in conference can be helpful.

Stanford 31, ASU 13.

[Farm93]

ASU's D is not in great shape, and at least when wearing black they looked small.  Unlike the OOC opponent, winning impressively in conference can be helpful.

Stanford 31, ASU 13.

[stupac2]

I'm going to go with 27-17

[stupac2]

I'm going to go with 27-17

[fullmetal]

37 - 13, good guys.  Maybe the ASU passing attack gives the secondary more chances to make INTs happen (Army's ground offense will necessarily depress any INT chances).  But I think Shaw pulls out some of the schematic stops and lets the Farm Boys chew up some yards and points.

[fullmetal]

37 - 13, good guys.  Maybe the ASU passing attack gives the secondary more chances to make INTs happen (Army's ground offense will necessarily depress any INT chances).  But I think Shaw pulls out some of the schematic stops and lets the Farm Boys chew up some yards and points.

[Gauss]

By the way, for me success this season is still earning a Rose Bowl berth.  The Rose Bowl is in the team's control while an NC bid is dependent upon winning a post season popularity contest that is outside of Stanford's hands.  Nice if you get it but ....

A trip to the Rose bowl, similar to last year where we lost a couple of games but beat Oregon, would be a great success for me. I think that if the team clicks and things go our way we have a small shot at the NCG, but... the Rose Bowl would be pretty awesome.

Too early to make that call, NYCCardinalFan. Clemson could have wins over Georgia (mission accomplished), Fla. State, South Carolina and, in the ACC title came, Miami. Yes, the rest of their schedule is really weak, but if Georgia and Miami/Fla. State somehow look really, really good, Clemson would have a pretty strong argument.

The wins of an undefeated Clemson would be really good, and possibly humans would put them before an undefeated Stanford. But computers absolutely love the Pac-12 (just check the ranking of Pac-12 teams in the Massey's BCS ratings, which include the strength of future schedule, or Colley, the best computer BCS ranking of conferences).

Unless there is a brobdingnagian human disparity, which I don't think it is possible, Stanford would be ahead of Clemson.

I should have participated earlier, damnit.

Don't worry, you can get tons of points each week and the season is long! Let's hope for a 14-game season  ;D

[Gauss]

By the way, for me success this season is still earning a Rose Bowl berth.  The Rose Bowl is in the team's control while an NC bid is dependent upon winning a post season popularity contest that is outside of Stanford's hands.  Nice if you get it but ....

A trip to the Rose bowl, similar to last year where we lost a couple of games but beat Oregon, would be a great success for me. I think that if the team clicks and things go our way we have a small shot at the NCG, but... the Rose Bowl would be pretty awesome.

Too early to make that call, NYCCardinalFan. Clemson could have wins over Georgia (mission accomplished), Fla. State, South Carolina and, in the ACC title came, Miami. Yes, the rest of their schedule is really weak, but if Georgia and Miami/Fla. State somehow look really, really good, Clemson would have a pretty strong argument.

The wins of an undefeated Clemson would be really good, and possibly humans would put them before an undefeated Stanford. But computers absolutely love the Pac-12 (just check the ranking of Pac-12 teams in the Massey's BCS ratings, which include the strength of future schedule, or Colley, the best computer BCS ranking of conferences).

Unless there is a brobdingnagian human disparity, which I don't think it is possible, Stanford would be ahead of Clemson.

I should have participated earlier, damnit.

Don't worry, you can get tons of points each week and the season is long! Let's hope for a 14-game season  ;D

[Hey]

Stanford 16 - ASU 13  A field goal fest.

Is there going to be a poll for when the announcer says "Hogan is a dropback passer and not known for running the ball."  I'm going to go with the 3:00 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

[Hey]

Stanford 16 - ASU 13  A field goal fest.

Is there going to be a poll for when the announcer says "Hogan is a dropback passer and not known for running the ball."  I'm going to go with the 3:00 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

[jeboody]

newbie here, decided to join since this prediction game seems fun

stanford 34 (gaffney rush TD, hogan rush TD, cajuste rec TD, montgomery rec TD, 2 FGs)
asu 16

edit: ha oops, did my math wrong...meant to give asu 1 TD 3 FGs...somehow i ended up with 15 (subconsciously predicting a blocked PAT??)

[jeboody]

newbie here, decided to join since this prediction game seems fun

stanford 34 (gaffney rush TD, hogan rush TD, cajuste rec TD, montgomery rec TD, 2 FGs)
asu 16

edit: ha oops, did my math wrong...meant to give asu 1 TD 3 FGs...somehow i ended up with 15 (subconsciously predicting a blocked PAT??)

[CrazedZooChimp]

28-17 Stanford.

The game ends with Wilkerson performing his signature move against ASU, as he sits down on the way to the endzone.

[CrazedZooChimp]

28-17 Stanford.

The game ends with Wilkerson performing his signature move against ASU, as he sits down on the way to the endzone.

[CompSci87]

Stanford 16 - ASU 13  A field goal fest.

Is there going to be a poll for when the announcer says "Hogan is a dropback passer and not known for running the ball."  I'm going to go with the 3:00 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

Also, how many minutes after (or before) that will the other announcer call Hogan a dual-threat quarterback. I'm sure I've heard both those statements made about him in the same broadcast already this season.

[CompSci87]

Stanford 16 - ASU 13  A field goal fest.

Is there going to be a poll for when the announcer says "Hogan is a dropback passer and not known for running the ball."  I'm going to go with the 3:00 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

Also, how many minutes after (or before) that will the other announcer call Hogan a dual-threat quarterback. I'm sure I've heard both those statements made about him in the same broadcast already this season.

[Bruce Wang]

[quote author=Big Brother link=topic=8426.msg68434#msg68434 date=1379606274]
Stanford 16 - ASU 13  A field goal fest.

Is there going to be a poll for when the announcer says "Hogan is a dropback passer and not known for running the ball."  I'm going to go with the 3:00 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

Also, how many minutes after (or before) that will the other announcer call Hogan a dual-threat quarterback. I'm sure I've heard both those statements made about him in the same broadcast already this season.
[/quote]

We should make this part of the Stanford football drinking game.  Anytime an announcer calls Hogan surprisingly fast or a better runner than people think, take a shot.

[Bruce Wang]

[quote author=Big Brother link=topic=8426.msg68434#msg68434 date=1379606274]
Stanford 16 - ASU 13  A field goal fest.

Is there going to be a poll for when the announcer says "Hogan is a dropback passer and not known for running the ball."  I'm going to go with the 3:00 minute mark of the 2nd quarter.

Also, how many minutes after (or before) that will the other announcer call Hogan a dual-threat quarterback. I'm sure I've heard both those statements made about him in the same broadcast already this season.
[/quote]

We should make this part of the Stanford football drinking game.  Anytime an announcer calls Hogan surprisingly fast or a better runner than people think, take a shot.