[BigEasyCard]

... UCLA softball doing well.  ...

VG

At 2-0 in their bracket, UCLA guaranteed at least 17th place worth 50 points.  This is their 10th scoring sport on the Women's side and the first where they have outscored the corresponding Stanford Women's team.

UCLA now at 1,102.25 and 266.25 behind the Cardinal.

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

... UCLA softball doing well.  ...

VG

At 2-0 in their bracket, UCLA guaranteed at least 17th place worth 50 points.  This is their 10th scoring sport on the Women's side and the first where they have outscored the corresponding Stanford Women's team.

UCLA now at 1,102.25 and 266.25 behind the Cardinal.

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

In Women's Tennis Quarterfinals today, UCLA advanced while Stanford did not.  So the Cardinal Women earn 73 Cup points while UCLA Women stand at minimum of 83.

UCLA now at 1,112.25 total points and 256.25 behind the Cardinal.

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

In Women's Tennis Quarterfinals today, UCLA advanced while Stanford did not.  So the Cardinal Women earn 73 Cup points while UCLA Women stand at minimum of 83.

UCLA now at 1,112.25 total points and 256.25 behind the Cardinal.

Geaux Cardinal!

[Viking_Guy]

Stanford
Men
Sport	Finish	Points
Cross Country	2	90
Gymnastics	2	90
Swimming	6	73.5
Water Polo	3	72.5
Fencing	10	60
Tennis	17	50
Soccer	17	50
Football	26	45
Wrestling	35	38.5
Current total		569.5

Men can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 45 points for being in the final 30); Outdoor T+F (ranked 23 - would score roughly 48 points.)  If Outdoor T+F finishes in the top 34, they'll supplant wrestling (roughly, depending on ties and multiple-way ties and other oddities prevalent in a world of team T+F scoring; last year, for example, a three-way tie for 33 scored each team 40 points, while 36th scored 37.5).

So minimum men's score at present: 614.5. (adding the 45 for men's golf).

Women
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	1	100
Swimming	3	85
Soccer	3	83
Volleyball	3	83
Gymnastics	5	75
Tennis	5	73
Indoor T+F	8	70.5
Basketball	9	64
Cross Country	14	61.5
Field Hockey	5	60
Current total		755

Lacrosse was eliminated when tennis was scored.

Women can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 50 points for being in the final 24); Rowing (ranked 6 - would score 72 points); Outdoor T+F (ranked 13 - would score roughly 63 points.)

To add to the women's total: Golf would have to finish in the top 14 (last year, 14th scored 61.5 points).  Rowing would have to finish in the top 9 (last year, 10th scored 60 points, 9th 63).  Outdoor T+F in the top 14 as well.

Women's minimum score: 755.

TOTAL MINIMUM SCORE: 1369.5

Women's golf championship starts on Friday.  Rowing and track regionals the following weekend.

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UCLA

Men
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	1	100
Soccer	2	90
Football	10	67.5
Basketball	9	64
Tennis	9	64
Cross Country	18	56
Indoor T+F	62	5
Current total		446.5

Men can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 45 points for being in the final 30); Baseball (ranked 4 - 83 points); Outdoor Track and Field (unranked - didn't score in indoor.) Note UCLA may not score in 10 events for men if T+F does not.

Minimum score: 491.5. (With 45 more for golf scored)

Women
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	2	90
Tennis	2	90
Soccer	5	73
Gymnastics	7	68.25
Volleyball	9	64
Swimming	23	51
Cross Country	27	47
Indoor T+F	28	45.5
Current total		528.75

Women can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 50 points for being in the final 24); Outdoor T+F (Unranked); Softball (ranked 7 - minimum of 64 points for being in Sweet 16).

Scoring in two more sports before beginning to offset.

Minimum women's score: 642.75 (scoring 64 for softball, 50 for golf)

Minimum total score: 1134.25

[Viking_Guy]

Stanford
Men
Sport	Finish	Points
Cross Country	2	90
Gymnastics	2	90
Swimming	6	73.5
Water Polo	3	72.5
Fencing	10	60
Tennis	17	50
Soccer	17	50
Football	26	45
Wrestling	35	38.5
Current total		569.5

Men can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 45 points for being in the final 30); Outdoor T+F (ranked 23 - would score roughly 48 points.)  If Outdoor T+F finishes in the top 34, they'll supplant wrestling (roughly, depending on ties and multiple-way ties and other oddities prevalent in a world of team T+F scoring; last year, for example, a three-way tie for 33 scored each team 40 points, while 36th scored 37.5).

So minimum men's score at present: 614.5. (adding the 45 for men's golf).

Women
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	1	100
Swimming	3	85
Soccer	3	83
Volleyball	3	83
Gymnastics	5	75
Tennis	5	73
Indoor T+F	8	70.5
Basketball	9	64
Cross Country	14	61.5
Field Hockey	5	60
Current total		755

Lacrosse was eliminated when tennis was scored.

Women can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 50 points for being in the final 24); Rowing (ranked 6 - would score 72 points); Outdoor T+F (ranked 13 - would score roughly 63 points.)

To add to the women's total: Golf would have to finish in the top 14 (last year, 14th scored 61.5 points).  Rowing would have to finish in the top 9 (last year, 10th scored 60 points, 9th 63).  Outdoor T+F in the top 14 as well.

Women's minimum score: 755.

TOTAL MINIMUM SCORE: 1369.5

Women's golf championship starts on Friday.  Rowing and track regionals the following weekend.

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UCLA

Men
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	1	100
Soccer	2	90
Football	10	67.5
Basketball	9	64
Tennis	9	64
Cross Country	18	56
Indoor T+F	62	5
Current total		446.5

Men can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 45 points for being in the final 30); Baseball (ranked 4 - 83 points); Outdoor Track and Field (unranked - didn't score in indoor.) Note UCLA may not score in 10 events for men if T+F does not.

Minimum score: 491.5. (With 45 more for golf scored)

Women
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	2	90
Tennis	2	90
Soccer	5	73
Gymnastics	7	68.25
Volleyball	9	64
Swimming	23	51
Cross Country	27	47
Indoor T+F	28	45.5
Current total		528.75

Women can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 50 points for being in the final 24); Outdoor T+F (Unranked); Softball (ranked 7 - minimum of 64 points for being in Sweet 16).

Scoring in two more sports before beginning to offset.

Minimum women's score: 642.75 (scoring 64 for softball, 50 for golf)

Minimum total score: 1134.25

[Viking_Guy]

UCLA

Men
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	1	100
Soccer	2	90
Football	10	67.5
Basketball	9	64
Tennis	9	64
Cross Country	18	56
Indoor T+F	62	5
Current total		446.5

Men can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 45 points for being in the final 30); Baseball (ranked 4 - 83 points); Outdoor Track and Field (unranked - didn't score in indoor.) Note UCLA may not score in 10 events for men if T+F does not.

Minimum score: 491.5. (With 45 more for golf scored)

Women
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	2	90
Soccer	5	73
Gymnastics	7	68.25
Volleyball	9	64
Swimming	23	51
Cross Country	27	47
Indoor T+F	28	45.5
Current total		438.75

Women can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 50 points for being in the final 24); Tennis (minimum of 83 for being in Final 4); Rowing (ranked 17 - would score 72 points); Outdoor T+F (Unranked); Softball (ranked 7 - minimum of 64 points for being in Sweet 16).

Scoring in three sports before beginning to lose sports.

Minimum women's score: 635.75 (scoring 83 for tennis, 64 for softball, 50 for golf)

Minimum total score: 1127.25

[Viking_Guy]

UCLA

Men
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	1	100
Soccer	2	90
Football	10	67.5
Basketball	9	64
Tennis	9	64
Cross Country	18	56
Indoor T+F	62	5
Current total		446.5

Men can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 45 points for being in the final 30); Baseball (ranked 4 - 83 points); Outdoor Track and Field (unranked - didn't score in indoor.) Note UCLA may not score in 10 events for men if T+F does not.

Minimum score: 491.5. (With 45 more for golf scored)

Women
Sport	Finish	Points
Water Polo	2	90
Soccer	5	73
Gymnastics	7	68.25
Volleyball	9	64
Swimming	23	51
Cross Country	27	47
Indoor T+F	28	45.5
Current total		438.75

Women can still score points in: Golf (minimum of 50 points for being in the final 24); Tennis (minimum of 83 for being in Final 4); Rowing (ranked 17 - would score 72 points); Outdoor T+F (Unranked); Softball (ranked 7 - minimum of 64 points for being in Sweet 16).

Scoring in three sports before beginning to lose sports.

Minimum women's score: 635.75 (scoring 83 for tennis, 64 for softball, 50 for golf)

Minimum total score: 1127.25

[fullmetal]

UCLA women's rowing looked pretty outclassed today at the Pac-12 championships, but the Pac-12 is the deepest women's rowing conference anywhere.  They just might get an at-large bid to the NCAA championship. 

Stanford finished fourth overall in team standings--it looked to be a rough regatta for them as a team, but the varsity eight earned a silver medal.

[fullmetal]

UCLA women's rowing looked pretty outclassed today at the Pac-12 championships, but the Pac-12 is the deepest women's rowing conference anywhere.  They just might get an at-large bid to the NCAA championship. 

Stanford finished fourth overall in team standings--it looked to be a rough regatta for them as a team, but the varsity eight earned a silver medal.

[Spiny_Norman]

UCLA women's tennis in the NC match today vs. Vanderbilt (which shut out #1 USC in the semis).

[Spiny_Norman]

UCLA women's tennis in the NC match today vs. Vanderbilt (which shut out #1 USC in the semis).

[Farm93]

UCLA women's tennis in the NC match today vs. Vanderbilt (which shut out #1 U$€ in the semis).

Since Stanford men's golf advanced Stanford's floor is getting much more secure.  The UCLA men's loss to Oklahoma was also helpful.  UCLA now needs to virtually run the table with multiple NCAA team titles.  And if they did that they deserve the cup.  Alternatively Stanford could fail to get a few results in men's track & field.  That's probably more plausible since finishing in the top 20 in Track & Field often comes down to just one or two people posting solid results.

For Stanford fans the UCLA watch returns to the total NCAA team title tally.  Not sure I like the idea of Vandy and the SEC winning the thing, but....

[Farm93]

UCLA women's tennis in the NC match today vs. Vanderbilt (which shut out #1 U$€ in the semis).

Since Stanford men's golf advanced Stanford's floor is getting much more secure.  The UCLA men's loss to Oklahoma was also helpful.  UCLA now needs to virtually run the table with multiple NCAA team titles.  And if they did that they deserve the cup.  Alternatively Stanford could fail to get a few results in men's track & field.  That's probably more plausible since finishing in the top 20 in Track & Field often comes down to just one or two people posting solid results.

For Stanford fans the UCLA watch returns to the total NCAA team title tally.  Not sure I like the idea of Vandy and the SEC winning the thing, but....

[BigEasyCard]

[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=12122.msg118614#msg118614 date=1432054138]
UCLA women's tennis in the NC match today vs. Vanderbilt (which shut out #1 U$€ in the semis).

Since Stanford men's golf advanced Stanford's floor is getting much more secure.  The UCLA men's loss to Oklahoma was also helpful.  UCLA now needs to virtually run the table with multiple NCAA team titles.  And if they did that they deserve the cup.  Alternatively Stanford could fail to get a few results in men's track & field.  That's probably more plausible since finishing in the top 20 in Track & Field often comes down to just one or two people posting solid results.

For Stanford fans the UCLA watch returns to the total NCAA team title tally.  Not sure I like the idea of Vandy and the SEC winning the thing, but....
[/quote]

Geaux 'Dores!

[BigEasyCard]

[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=12122.msg118614#msg118614 date=1432054138]
UCLA women's tennis in the NC match today vs. Vanderbilt (which shut out #1 U$€ in the semis).

Since Stanford men's golf advanced Stanford's floor is getting much more secure.  The UCLA men's loss to Oklahoma was also helpful.  UCLA now needs to virtually run the table with multiple NCAA team titles.  And if they did that they deserve the cup.  Alternatively Stanford could fail to get a few results in men's track & field.  That's probably more plausible since finishing in the top 20 in Track & Field often comes down to just one or two people posting solid results.

For Stanford fans the UCLA watch returns to the total NCAA team title tally.  Not sure I like the idea of Vandy and the SEC winning the thing, but....
[/quote]

Geaux 'Dores!

[Hulk01]

Men's golf has a good shot at the final eight.  They're playing well.  And we have the best first man (Maverick) and fifth (Swegle)
in the event, plus Huang playing great at number four.  And our number three (Boote) finished third in the event last year.

And Virat,  on his one very good day in three, can play with anyone.  On the other two rounds, he ends up losing big, but losing 5-4 is the same as losing on the 20th hole. 

Should be a terrific event.  No clear favorite.  FSU has been wicked at 1-2-3 but not playing their best lately.  Illinois is similar but hasn't faced good competition yet.  Texas is hot, Oklahoma--not Oklahoma State--went bat shit crazy last weekend. 

[Hulk01]

Men's golf has a good shot at the final eight.  They're playing well.  And we have the best first man (Maverick) and fifth (Swegle)
in the event, plus Huang playing great at number four.  And our number three (Boote) finished third in the event last year.

And Virat,  on his one very good day in three, can play with anyone.  On the other two rounds, he ends up losing big, but losing 5-4 is the same as losing on the 20th hole. 

Should be a terrific event.  No clear favorite.  FSU has been wicked at 1-2-3 but not playing their best lately.  Illinois is similar but hasn't faced good competition yet.  Texas is hot, Oklahoma--not Oklahoma State--went bat shit crazy last weekend. 

[fullmetal]

UCLA women's rowing was not selected for the NCAA championships.

[fullmetal]

UCLA women's rowing was not selected for the NCAA championships.

[Farm93]

They were unlikely to add much to UCLA's tally anyway.  It really comes down to Men's Golf and Men's T&F for both schools.  Really unlikely that UCLA will outperform Stanford by the margins needed.

In the end, they need to almost run the table.  If UCLA becomes CWS Baseball champs, WCWS softball champs, Men's golf champs, Women's golf champs and women's tennis champs then they MIGHT win the NACDA Directors' cup by 10-20 points if the UCLA men's track & field post an impressive top 25 result too.  And if they do all of that in the next 4 weeks then they deserve the cup.

The UCLA men's tennis team losing in the Round of 16 and Stanford golf's advancement to the final really was just about enough. 

[Farm93]

They were unlikely to add much to UCLA's tally anyway.  It really comes down to Men's Golf and Men's T&F for both schools.  Really unlikely that UCLA will outperform Stanford by the margins needed.

In the end, they need to almost run the table.  If UCLA becomes CWS Baseball champs, WCWS softball champs, Men's golf champs, Women's golf champs and women's tennis champs then they MIGHT win the NACDA Directors' cup by 10-20 points if the UCLA men's track & field post an impressive top 25 result too.  And if they do all of that in the next 4 weeks then they deserve the cup.

The UCLA men's tennis team losing in the Round of 16 and Stanford golf's advancement to the final really was just about enough. 

[Rally]

I wonder if UC.LA or other schools obsess about this as much as we do.  Does anyone know?

[Rally]

I wonder if UC.LA or other schools obsess about this as much as we do.  Does anyone know?

[Viking_Guy]

Just to clarify:  UCLA women's rowing not selected means they won't score any points in rowing, or eliminate one of their lower scoring sports.  Stanford scores a minimum of 30 points for being selected, but again, won't affect the scoring unless they knock out field hockey by placing 9th or better.


Now keeping an eye on the women's tennis final.


And Ferrari, I don't think they can obsess over what they haven't had in the last 20 years :).  I do know that the Florida folks were following it fairly closely when they had a chance to dethrone Stanford two years ago.


VG

[Viking_Guy]

Just to clarify:  UCLA women's rowing not selected means they won't score any points in rowing, or eliminate one of their lower scoring sports.  Stanford scores a minimum of 30 points for being selected, but again, won't affect the scoring unless they knock out field hockey by placing 9th or better.


Now keeping an eye on the women's tennis final.


And Ferrari, I don't think they can obsess over what they haven't had in the last 20 years :).  I do know that the Florida folks were following it fairly closely when they had a chance to dethrone Stanford two years ago.


VG

[Nan3cy]

It seems there are any number of examples of other schools trumpeting their top-x finish in the Director's Cup. I'd be surprised if UCLA hadn't done it somewhere along the way.

[Nan3cy]

It seems there are any number of examples of other schools trumpeting their top-x finish in the Director's Cup. I'd be surprised if UCLA hadn't done it somewhere along the way.

[yvonne]

Like these, for example:

http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.db...=208473182
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla-athleti...al-one-cup
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_olympic...ectors-cup
http://dailybruin.com/2012/07/08/ucla-at...standings/

[yvonne]

Like these, for example:

http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.db...=208473182
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla-athleti...al-one-cup
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_olympic...ectors-cup
http://dailybruin.com/2012/07/08/ucla-at...standings/

[Farm93]

I wonder if UC.LA or other schools obsess about this as much as we do.  Does anyone know?

A few schools have bonuses for their ADs if the school finishes in the top 10, top 5, etc.  I don't think I have seen a school mention the bonus for winning the NACDA Directors' Cup, but I suspect some ADs might have bonuses linked to a cup win.

[Farm93]

I wonder if UC.LA or other schools obsess about this as much as we do.  Does anyone know?

A few schools have bonuses for their ADs if the school finishes in the top 10, top 5, etc.  I don't think I have seen a school mention the bonus for winning the NACDA Directors' Cup, but I suspect some ADs might have bonuses linked to a cup win.

[terry]

I suspect some ADs might have bonuses linked to a cup win.

Maybe, but it seems to me that if they're smart, they would tie their bonuses to a top 3 or top 5 finish, rather than an outright win, because it's so very difficult to beat Stanford.

[terry]

I suspect some ADs might have bonuses linked to a cup win.

Maybe, but it seems to me that if they're smart, they would tie their bonuses to a top 3 or top 5 finish, rather than an outright win, because it's so very difficult to beat Stanford.

[Nan3cy]

Like these, for example:

http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.db...=208473182
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla-athleti...al-one-cup
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_olympic...ectors-cup
http://dailybruin.com/2012/07/08/ucla-at...standings/

Yes, like those.  :)

[Nan3cy]

Like these, for example:

http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.db...=208473182
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla-athleti...al-one-cup
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_olympic...ectors-cup
http://dailybruin.com/2012/07/08/ucla-at...standings/

Yes, like those.  :)

[BigEasyCard]

From one of the above links: http://dailybruin.com/2012/07/08/ucla-at...standings/

"In the 19-year history of the Directors’ Cup, UCLA has finished in the top six of the final standings 17 times. Only one other school, Stanford, has matched this feat."

Bit of an understatement here?

Geaux Cardinal!

[BigEasyCard]

From one of the above links: http://dailybruin.com/2012/07/08/ucla-at...standings/

"In the 19-year history of the Directors’ Cup, UCLA has finished in the top six of the final standings 17 times. Only one other school, Stanford, has matched this feat."

Bit of an understatement here?

Geaux Cardinal!

[Nan3cy]

That's hilarious, BigEasy. Lies, damn lies, and statistics...


Reminds me of Amos Alonzo Stagg being interviewed on his 100th birthday, predicting that he'd live forever. "Statistically, very few people die after the age of 100."


:)

[Nan3cy]

That's hilarious, BigEasy. Lies, damn lies, and statistics...


Reminds me of Amos Alonzo Stagg being interviewed on his 100th birthday, predicting that he'd live forever. "Statistically, very few people die after the age of 100."


:)