[ChicagoCard]

The recruit's name is really McDoom?

[ChicagoCard]

The recruit's name is really McDoom?

[ColoradoTree]

[quote author=CTcard link=topic=9617.msg154389#msg154389 date=1453838870]
That is rather pointless as Michigan has essentially recruited over Stewart already in his own entering class.

Michigan already has four other WR in this class, all of them rated substantially ahead of Stewart. For that matter, in their very small class last year they also had two WR rated substantially higher. 

This is what is making me crazy about this recruitment.  I'm not saying Stewart should be scared of the competition at Michigan, but it seems reasonable to look at who else is there at your position and candidly assess your chances of breaking through the logjam to get significant playing time.  In our class, we have Fehoko (who's going on a mission, so doesn't really count for another two years) and Paxton Segina, who is a 2-star recruit.  (Segina may prove to be another underrecruited Stanford success story, but our WR class right now is not exactly overflowing with high-ranking immediate contributors.)  Contra Michigan, with 4-star Ahmir Mitchell, 4-star Dylan Crawford, 4-star Brad Hawkins, and 3- to 4-star Nate Johnson**. 

** (Stewart actually ranks ahead of Johnson on ESPN (77 to Johnson's 72) and Rivals (the 74th-ranked WR compared to the 79th-ranked WR), but Johnson is ahead on 247 (92 to 86) and Scout (67th-ranked WR to the 102nd-ranked WR).)

Not only would Stewart leave school with a significantly more prestigious degree by coming to Stanford, Stewart would be the top-ranked WR from this class when he steps foot on campus.  He would be the 4th- or 5th-ranked WR in this class in Ann Arbor, depending on the service.  And as for quality of football, we can look at the final AP rankings for the past six years:

2015 season: #3 Stanford, #12 Michigan
2014 season: Neither team ranked
2013 season: #11 Stanford, (NR) Michigan
2012 season: #7 Stanford, #24 Michigan
2011 season: #7 Stanford, #12 Michigan
2010 season: #4 Stanford, (NR) Michigan

Sure, Michigan may have a longer tradition of football excellence, but if you're concerned about the best place to play football right now, get a degree, and prepare yourself for the NFL, there just isn't a comparison.
[/quote]

Now that Michigan has added yet another WR recruit, Eddie McDoom (heck of a name, by the way), I should note that McDoom is ranked higher than Stewart on Scout (68th-ranked WR to 102nd-ranked WR), 247 (88 to 86), and ESPN (82 to 77), while Stewart has the slightest edge per Rivals (74th-ranked WR to 75th-ranked WR).  So Stewart would be the 4th of 6 WRs in the Michigan class per Rivals, the 5th of 6 WRs in the class per ESPN, and the 6th of 6 WRs in the class per Scout and 247. 

On the other hand, Stewart may be optimistic about playing time there because of his height.  At 6'4", he would be the tallest WR in the class (Ahmir Mitchell is 6'3", Dylan Crawford is 6'1", Brad Hawkins is 6'1", Nate Johnson is 5'11", and McDoom is also 5'11," all heights per 247). 

As for other WR recruits moving to safety, that well may be true, but there are already two safeties in Michigan's class.  (Of course, they're middle 3-star guys and two of the 4 lowest-ranked guys currently in the class, so it's entirely possible they don't make it to signing day and some of the higher-ranked WRs get moved over to defense.)

[ColoradoTree]

[quote author=CTcard link=topic=9617.msg154389#msg154389 date=1453838870]
That is rather pointless as Michigan has essentially recruited over Stewart already in his own entering class.

Michigan already has four other WR in this class, all of them rated substantially ahead of Stewart. For that matter, in their very small class last year they also had two WR rated substantially higher. 

This is what is making me crazy about this recruitment.  I'm not saying Stewart should be scared of the competition at Michigan, but it seems reasonable to look at who else is there at your position and candidly assess your chances of breaking through the logjam to get significant playing time.  In our class, we have Fehoko (who's going on a mission, so doesn't really count for another two years) and Paxton Segina, who is a 2-star recruit.  (Segina may prove to be another underrecruited Stanford success story, but our WR class right now is not exactly overflowing with high-ranking immediate contributors.)  Contra Michigan, with 4-star Ahmir Mitchell, 4-star Dylan Crawford, 4-star Brad Hawkins, and 3- to 4-star Nate Johnson**. 

** (Stewart actually ranks ahead of Johnson on ESPN (77 to Johnson's 72) and Rivals (the 74th-ranked WR compared to the 79th-ranked WR), but Johnson is ahead on 247 (92 to 86) and Scout (67th-ranked WR to the 102nd-ranked WR).)

Not only would Stewart leave school with a significantly more prestigious degree by coming to Stanford, Stewart would be the top-ranked WR from this class when he steps foot on campus.  He would be the 4th- or 5th-ranked WR in this class in Ann Arbor, depending on the service.  And as for quality of football, we can look at the final AP rankings for the past six years:

2015 season: #3 Stanford, #12 Michigan
2014 season: Neither team ranked
2013 season: #11 Stanford, (NR) Michigan
2012 season: #7 Stanford, #24 Michigan
2011 season: #7 Stanford, #12 Michigan
2010 season: #4 Stanford, (NR) Michigan

Sure, Michigan may have a longer tradition of football excellence, but if you're concerned about the best place to play football right now, get a degree, and prepare yourself for the NFL, there just isn't a comparison.
[/quote]

Now that Michigan has added yet another WR recruit, Eddie McDoom (heck of a name, by the way), I should note that McDoom is ranked higher than Stewart on Scout (68th-ranked WR to 102nd-ranked WR), 247 (88 to 86), and ESPN (82 to 77), while Stewart has the slightest edge per Rivals (74th-ranked WR to 75th-ranked WR).  So Stewart would be the 4th of 6 WRs in the Michigan class per Rivals, the 5th of 6 WRs in the class per ESPN, and the 6th of 6 WRs in the class per Scout and 247. 

On the other hand, Stewart may be optimistic about playing time there because of his height.  At 6'4", he would be the tallest WR in the class (Ahmir Mitchell is 6'3", Dylan Crawford is 6'1", Brad Hawkins is 6'1", Nate Johnson is 5'11", and McDoom is also 5'11," all heights per 247). 

As for other WR recruits moving to safety, that well may be true, but there are already two safeties in Michigan's class.  (Of course, they're middle 3-star guys and two of the 4 lowest-ranked guys currently in the class, so it's entirely possible they don't make it to signing day and some of the higher-ranked WRs get moved over to defense.)

[ColoradoTree]

To those of you concerned that there just might be too many wide receivers in Michigan's class, not to worry!  According to this Michigan blog, WR commit Nate Johnson's "status is up in the air." 

http://www.maizenbrew.com/2016/1/27/1081...its-to-the

This, of course, might be news to Johnson, who was offered in December and committed four days ago, saying "It was a gut feeling and a no brainer." (See http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nate-Johnson-c...1972166.)  That doesn't sound up in the air to me.

Edit: On further review, it appears Johnson is still taking official visits to other programs (ND last weekend and Penn State this weekend).  As one of the lower-ranked WRs in the Michigan class, I wonder if Johnson has been told to take a look around in case things don't work out on signing day....

[ColoradoTree]

To those of you concerned that there just might be too many wide receivers in Michigan's class, not to worry!  According to this Michigan blog, WR commit Nate Johnson's "status is up in the air." 

http://www.maizenbrew.com/2016/1/27/1081...its-to-the

This, of course, might be news to Johnson, who was offered in December and committed four days ago, saying "It was a gut feeling and a no brainer." (See http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nate-Johnson-c...1972166.)  That doesn't sound up in the air to me.

Edit: On further review, it appears Johnson is still taking official visits to other programs (ND last weekend and Penn State this weekend).  As one of the lower-ranked WRs in the Michigan class, I wonder if Johnson has been told to take a look around in case things don't work out on signing day....

[PalmTree]

[quote author=DC link=topic=9617.msg154420#msg154420 date=1453844442]
Wouldn't be surprised if the lecture that Montag gave Stewart about how hard the school is, and the fact that Shaw told him to keep his grades up is working on his mind. I believe Shaw majored in sociology, so he should convey to Stewart that the academics can be fit to his comfort level.

I may be in the minority, but I don't think this is relevant at all. My impression is that Shaw is looking for competitors--people that are comfortable with their abilities both on-field and in the classroom (and Stewart certainly seems comfortable with his on-field abilities judging by the # of WR commits at UM). This battle really boils down to whether Stewart wants to attend a school where he feels comfortable (i.e., his friends will be playing there, his former coach is there) versus a school where he can challenge himself and grow. If the bottom line is that he'd like to go to college with his high school friends and play with his high school coach then there's not much that Stanford has to offer.
[/quote]

Agree.  Along those same lines, this picture....ok, tweet + the caption, are worth 1000 words

https://twitter.com/mike_williams52/stat...4236329986

[PalmTree]

[quote author=DC link=topic=9617.msg154420#msg154420 date=1453844442]
Wouldn't be surprised if the lecture that Montag gave Stewart about how hard the school is, and the fact that Shaw told him to keep his grades up is working on his mind. I believe Shaw majored in sociology, so he should convey to Stewart that the academics can be fit to his comfort level.

I may be in the minority, but I don't think this is relevant at all. My impression is that Shaw is looking for competitors--people that are comfortable with their abilities both on-field and in the classroom (and Stewart certainly seems comfortable with his on-field abilities judging by the # of WR commits at UM). This battle really boils down to whether Stewart wants to attend a school where he feels comfortable (i.e., his friends will be playing there, his former coach is there) versus a school where he can challenge himself and grow. If the bottom line is that he'd like to go to college with his high school friends and play with his high school coach then there's not much that Stanford has to offer.
[/quote]

Agree.  Along those same lines, this picture....ok, tweet + the caption, are worth 1000 words

https://twitter.com/mike_williams52/stat...4236329986

[ColoradoTree]

I know ESPN is rightly regarded as one of the weakest recruiting services, but I think it's interesting to note that they have Paxton Segina ranked as a 3-star recruit (79 rating, and the 89th-ranked WR in the class), while the other services agree that he's either a very low 3-star recruit or a 2-star guy. 

In fact, he's actually ranked HIGHER than Donald Stewart on ESPN, who gets a 77 rating (still 3 stars) and is pegged as the 122nd-ranked WR in the class.  Huh.

I'm certainly not saying that Segina is the better prospect than Stewart, but I was surprised to see ESPN rank him as such when the other services agree that Stewart is a 4-star caliber prospect while Segina is a 2-star (or very low 3-star) guy.  It could be as simple as "ESPN rankings are always weird" or perhaps one of their recruitniks saw the same thing in Segina that our coaching staff did. 

[ColoradoTree]

I know ESPN is rightly regarded as one of the weakest recruiting services, but I think it's interesting to note that they have Paxton Segina ranked as a 3-star recruit (79 rating, and the 89th-ranked WR in the class), while the other services agree that he's either a very low 3-star recruit or a 2-star guy. 

In fact, he's actually ranked HIGHER than Donald Stewart on ESPN, who gets a 77 rating (still 3 stars) and is pegged as the 122nd-ranked WR in the class.  Huh.

I'm certainly not saying that Segina is the better prospect than Stewart, but I was surprised to see ESPN rank him as such when the other services agree that Stewart is a 4-star caliber prospect while Segina is a 2-star (or very low 3-star) guy.  It could be as simple as "ESPN rankings are always weird" or perhaps one of their recruitniks saw the same thing in Segina that our coaching staff did. 

[larkinforever]

https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/68...1545794561

https://twitter.com/jmcculloch17/status/...4024403968

Main reason I posted these two tweets is that The Shark retweeted the first one and then shortly after tweeted the second one. I found it humorous that his tweet included emos for A&M, Stanford, ND and UT but not Bama (not that Bama cares).

[larkinforever]

https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/68...1545794561

https://twitter.com/jmcculloch17/status/...4024403968

Main reason I posted these two tweets is that The Shark retweeted the first one and then shortly after tweeted the second one. I found it humorous that his tweet included emos for A&M, Stanford, ND and UT but not Bama (not that Bama cares).

[Redrum]

Looks like a "thumbs up"

[Redrum]

Looks like a "thumbs up"

[slide]

Looks like a "thumbs up"

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

[slide]

Looks like a "thumbs up"

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

[oman]

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

You raise your thumb and say "Gig 'em Aggies".

As far as sqeezing 'em, what is seen can never be unseen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4

[oman]

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

You raise your thumb and say "Gig 'em Aggies".

As far as sqeezing 'em, what is seen can never be unseen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4

[Rally]

[quote author=slide link=topic=9617.msg154541#msg154541 date=1453933552]

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

You raise your thumb and say "Gig 'em Aggies".

As far as sqeezing 'em, what is seen can never be unseen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4
[/quote]

Each of these videos is seriously sick.  I can't even imagine a sane person agreeing to any of this.  When I went through Rush one frat showed off their paddles and bragged about their use.  I couldn't for the life of me understand why having someone smack my butt with one of those was a good idea. 

[Rally]

[quote author=slide link=topic=9617.msg154541#msg154541 date=1453933552]

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

You raise your thumb and say "Gig 'em Aggies".

As far as sqeezing 'em, what is seen can never be unseen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4
[/quote]

Each of these videos is seriously sick.  I can't even imagine a sane person agreeing to any of this.  When I went through Rush one frat showed off their paddles and bragged about their use.  I couldn't for the life of me understand why having someone smack my butt with one of those was a good idea. 

[BostonCard]

Then there is this tradition at Texas Tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFBj_V2ljGU

BC

[BostonCard]

Then there is this tradition at Texas Tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFBj_V2ljGU

BC

[amartinsu13]

[quote author=oman link=topic=9617.msg154547#msg154547 date=1453937450]
[quote author=slide link=topic=9617.msg154541#msg154541 date=1453933552]

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

You raise your thumb and say "Gig 'em Aggies".

As far as sqeezing 'em, what is seen can never be unseen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4
[/quote]

Each of these videos is seriously sick.  I can't even imagine a sane person agreeing to any of this.  When I went through Rush one frat showed off their paddles and bragged about their use.  I couldn't for the life of me understand why having someone smack my butt with one of those was a good idea.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of them are faking it.  Probably all of them... otherwise if you actually squeezed your balls you'd be doubled down on the ground in excruciating pain. 

They probably laugh at the one guy who does do a real squeeze and collapses.

[amartinsu13]

[quote author=oman link=topic=9617.msg154547#msg154547 date=1453937450]
[quote author=slide link=topic=9617.msg154541#msg154541 date=1453933552]

it is a thumbs up.  I think ATM's emoji is a maroon thumbs up that says gig 'em or squeez 'em

You raise your thumb and say "Gig 'em Aggies".

As far as sqeezing 'em, what is seen can never be unseen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4
[/quote]

Each of these videos is seriously sick.  I can't even imagine a sane person agreeing to any of this.  When I went through Rush one frat showed off their paddles and bragged about their use.  I couldn't for the life of me understand why having someone smack my butt with one of those was a good idea.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of them are faking it.  Probably all of them... otherwise if you actually squeezed your balls you'd be doubled down on the ground in excruciating pain. 

They probably laugh at the one guy who does do a real squeeze and collapses.

[BostonCard]

I was thinking that as a bonding experience they ought to form a circle and squeeze each other's nuts, just to ensure that no one is faking it.

BC

[BostonCard]

I was thinking that as a bonding experience they ought to form a circle and squeeze each other's nuts, just to ensure that no one is faking it.

BC

[Rally]

I was thinking that as a bonding experience they ought to form a circle and squeeze each other's nuts, just to ensure that no one is faking it.

BC

Forget it.  I was going to write something having to do with a circle but grossed myself out before I could write it.  Consider this deleted.

[Rally]

I was thinking that as a bonding experience they ought to form a circle and squeeze each other's nuts, just to ensure that no one is faking it.

BC

Forget it.  I was going to write something having to do with a circle but grossed myself out before I could write it.  Consider this deleted.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

This thread took a turn.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

This thread took a turn.

[oman]

This thread took a turn.

Ding ding ding!  We have a winner.

[oman]

This thread took a turn.

Ding ding ding!  We have a winner.

[washingtonismoney]

https://twitter.com/Obi_Eboh3/status/692799654174404608

[washingtonismoney]

https://twitter.com/Obi_Eboh3/status/692799654174404608

[PalmTree]

https://twitter.com/Obi_Eboh3/status/692799654174404608

Most excellent - takes off a BIG bit of the sting of the earlier DB losses

[PalmTree]

https://twitter.com/Obi_Eboh3/status/692799654174404608

Most excellent - takes off a BIG bit of the sting of the earlier DB losses

[ColoradoTree]

Just because it was expected doesn't make it any less fun when it happens.  Welcome, Obi!

[ColoradoTree]

Just because it was expected doesn't make it any less fun when it happens.  Welcome, Obi!

[SUBuddha]

https://twitter.com/nate_herbig/status/6...5233831936

[SUBuddha]

https://twitter.com/nate_herbig/status/6...5233831936