[Bruce Wang]

A source told ESPN's Joe Schad that assistant head coach Ed Orgeron will be named interim coach.

Yes!  That's exactly who I was hoping would get the nod.  A known slime that's a bad head coach.  He might get them in more NCAA trouble.

[Bruce Wang]

A source told ESPN's Joe Schad that assistant head coach Ed Orgeron will be named interim coach.

Yes!  That's exactly who I was hoping would get the nod.  A known slime that's a bad head coach.  He might get them in more NCAA trouble.

[Farm93]

I understand the subject header, but in reality it was, using an SC concept, an AMAZING day.

UCB - Lost by more than 2 TDs
UND - Lost by 2 TDs at home and fell out of the top 25
USC - Lost by more than 2 TDs, and their coach was fired.
Stanford - Won by more than 2 TDs.

Not sure a regular season day could get any better.

Even if SC gets the hunting jump on Texas, the Texas job is still so much better.  A coach looking to jump to the NFL in 3-5 years would be crazy to take the SC job because 2014 will be brutal and 2015 will feature a bunch of freshman on the field making the coaching look really bad.  A coach dreaming of the NFL by 2018 will have better opportunities (Texas, wherever the next Texas coach came from, etc.)

[Farm93]

I understand the subject header, but in reality it was, using an SC concept, an AMAZING day.

UCB - Lost by more than 2 TDs
UND - Lost by 2 TDs at home and fell out of the top 25
USC - Lost by more than 2 TDs, and their coach was fired.
Stanford - Won by more than 2 TDs.

Not sure a regular season day could get any better.

Even if SC gets the hunting jump on Texas, the Texas job is still so much better.  A coach looking to jump to the NFL in 3-5 years would be crazy to take the SC job because 2014 will be brutal and 2015 will feature a bunch of freshman on the field making the coaching look really bad.  A coach dreaming of the NFL by 2018 will have better opportunities (Texas, wherever the next Texas coach came from, etc.)

[Extra Point]

I'm not sure why this is a dick move. If you know you're going to fire a guy, I think the best thing to do is to do it face to face the first chance you get. Why wait until Sunday morning? At the airport is the best way.

The latest reports are saying that Haden would not let him back on the bus. Kiffin had to find another ride.

As for the mid season firing being a bad thing for Stanford, I'm not so sure. Consider:

It will be much more difficult for USC to win games this year. The interim coach and assistants are going to be more concerned about finding another job than anything else. At best, they will make it to another low tier bowl. Stanford has a chance to put the all time worst defeat on them this year.

Recruiting will take a big hit this year at USC. It is going to be nothing but bad press for them for some time.

It will take at least two years for them to recover from the effects of the sanctions. Who ever takes over has an uphill battle. Everyone in coaching recognizes this. The rabid USC fans don't see it this way though. They want a savior now, they are willing to pay for it, and they expect to get it. The last thing they want to hear is that it will take time to return to the program to glory? What they are likely to get is someone who will promise the world in order to get a good retirement -- someone like Kiffin!

UCLA is on the rise. It is very likely that USC and UCLA will share the high profile recruits that want to stay in LA for some time.

[Extra Point]

I'm not sure why this is a dick move. If you know you're going to fire a guy, I think the best thing to do is to do it face to face the first chance you get. Why wait until Sunday morning? At the airport is the best way.

The latest reports are saying that Haden would not let him back on the bus. Kiffin had to find another ride.

As for the mid season firing being a bad thing for Stanford, I'm not so sure. Consider:

It will be much more difficult for USC to win games this year. The interim coach and assistants are going to be more concerned about finding another job than anything else. At best, they will make it to another low tier bowl. Stanford has a chance to put the all time worst defeat on them this year.

Recruiting will take a big hit this year at USC. It is going to be nothing but bad press for them for some time.

It will take at least two years for them to recover from the effects of the sanctions. Who ever takes over has an uphill battle. Everyone in coaching recognizes this. The rabid USC fans don't see it this way though. They want a savior now, they are willing to pay for it, and they expect to get it. The last thing they want to hear is that it will take time to return to the program to glory? What they are likely to get is someone who will promise the world in order to get a good retirement -- someone like Kiffin!

UCLA is on the rise. It is very likely that USC and UCLA will share the high profile recruits that want to stay in LA for some time.

[pincemob]

They might find a better coach, but it will be impossible to find a better fit institutionally than Kiffin. 

[pincemob]

They might find a better coach, but it will be impossible to find a better fit institutionally than Kiffin. 

[AthleticsDynasty]

Sark would be a terrible hire for USC he's a downgrade from Kiffin(I hope they do it =D) If they are smart they go after The Fresno coach Tim Deruyter. He would kill it

[AthleticsDynasty]

Sark would be a terrible hire for USC he's a downgrade from Kiffin(I hope they do it =D) If they are smart they go after The Fresno coach Tim Deruyter. He would kill it

[washingtonismoney]

UCLA is on the rise. It is very likely that Under Stanford Control and UCLA will share the high profile recruits that want to stay in LA for some time.

UCLA is recruiting poorly this year. It's pretty strange.


Anyway, an SC beat writer puts Gary Patterson's name in the mix, which would be (NO!!)

EDIT: also, smart move by Haden to get this done early. By the Florida/Urban Meyer principle, always smart to get the jump on your competitors. (Hi Texas!)

[washingtonismoney]

UCLA is on the rise. It is very likely that Under Stanford Control and UCLA will share the high profile recruits that want to stay in LA for some time.

UCLA is recruiting poorly this year. It's pretty strange.


Anyway, an SC beat writer puts Gary Patterson's name in the mix, which would be (NO!!)

EDIT: also, smart move by Haden to get this done early. By the Florida/Urban Meyer principle, always smart to get the jump on your competitors. (Hi Texas!)

[fullmetal]

[quote author=Publius link=topic=8495.msg69420#msg69420 date=1380461166]
The reports are that he was fired by Haden on the plane ride home.  Stone cold move.

Nope. Pulled off the team bus and fired in the airport parking lot. Left his bags on the bus, too.
[/quote]

Seriously?

But yeah, having someone that incompetent coaching at U$C forever would have been a dream situation for Stanford and the rest of the Pac-12 south.

[edit]: Holy crap, it's true.  Deadspin article here.  OUCH.  Not sure that was very professional of Haden...but surely more professional than the way Lane was coaching that $C team.

[fullmetal]

[quote author=Publius link=topic=8495.msg69420#msg69420 date=1380461166]
The reports are that he was fired by Haden on the plane ride home.  Stone cold move.

Nope. Pulled off the team bus and fired in the airport parking lot. Left his bags on the bus, too.
[/quote]

Seriously?

But yeah, having someone that incompetent coaching at U$C forever would have been a dream situation for Stanford and the rest of the Pac-12 south.

[edit]: Holy crap, it's true.  Deadspin article here.  OUCH.  Not sure that was very professional of Haden...but surely more professional than the way Lane was coaching that $C team.

[82lsju]

For whatever strange reason, there's never a shortage of job offers for guys who do lousy jobs at glamor schools. If Gerry Faust could get a job after the mess he made at the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends, Kiff.in will be able to find one, too. He was, apparently, a pretty good offensive coordinator once upon a time.

note sure the Akron Zips head coaching gig was all that spectacular when Faust went there......and since he probably had time left on his ND contract the first year or two might have cost Akron nothing.....

[82lsju]

For whatever strange reason, there's never a shortage of job offers for guys who do lousy jobs at glamor schools. If Gerry Faust could get a job after the mess he made at the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends, Kiff.in will be able to find one, too. He was, apparently, a pretty good offensive coordinator once upon a time.

note sure the Akron Zips head coaching gig was all that spectacular when Faust went there......and since he probably had time left on his ND contract the first year or two might have cost Akron nothing.....

[GoodGrief]

btw, Buzzfeed has a pretty good history of Lane Kiffin that shows us how his salesmanship has managed to get him far beyond what his talent merits.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bml/a-history-of...lden-touch

[GoodGrief]

btw, Buzzfeed has a pretty good history of Lane Kiffin that shows us how his salesmanship has managed to get him far beyond what his talent merits.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bml/a-history-of...lden-touch

[fullmetal]

Salesman is an excellent description of Kiffie's only core competency.  It's probably how he got his job and his wife.

[fullmetal]

Salesman is an excellent description of Kiffie's only core competency.  It's probably how he got his job and his wife.

[washingtonismoney]

If Lane Kiffin is such a great salesman, why does the article blame his bad PR and so many people hate him?

[washingtonismoney]

If Lane Kiffin is such a great salesman, why does the article blame his bad PR and so many people hate him?

[Extra Point]

If Lane Daniel Tosh's evil twin is such a great salesman, why does the article blame his bad PR and so many people hate him?

Have you ever bought something from a slick salesman, then realized that you had been duped when you got home?

[Extra Point]

If Lane Daniel Tosh's evil twin is such a great salesman, why does the article blame his bad PR and so many people hate him?

Have you ever bought something from a slick salesman, then realized that you had been duped when you got home?

[GoodGrief]

If Lane Daniel Tosh's evil twin is such a great salesman, why does the article blame his bad PR and so many people hate him?

I think his salesmanship probably comes across on a one-to-one basis (with recruits, owners, Athletic Directors). Bad publicity results from the actions he commits by being a bad coach and a bad person.

I won't miss him as a person, but I'll sure miss beating him.

[GoodGrief]

If Lane Daniel Tosh's evil twin is such a great salesman, why does the article blame his bad PR and so many people hate him?

I think his salesmanship probably comes across on a one-to-one basis (with recruits, owners, Athletic Directors). Bad publicity results from the actions he commits by being a bad coach and a bad person.

I won't miss him as a person, but I'll sure miss beating him.

[Bruce Wang]

Here's a scary thought: the Chipper is now 1-3 with the Egles.  Perhaps he's thinking about coming back to the college ranks. 

On 2nd thought might be good for  us, dilute the talent to run that system across two teams. This might even be better for Stanford recruiting since Chipper's more interested in track athletes than football players.

[Bruce Wang]

Here's a scary thought: the Chipper is now 1-3 with the Egles.  Perhaps he's thinking about coming back to the college ranks. 

On 2nd thought might be good for  us, dilute the talent to run that system across two teams. This might even be better for Stanford recruiting since Chipper's more interested in track athletes than football players.

[washingtonismoney]

I doubt Chip pulls a Petrino, but who knows. His offensive system is working, more-or-less. It's the defense that's causing him problems. That plus the injuries always made this season difficult for them. I'm intrigued to see what happens going forward.

[washingtonismoney]

I doubt Chip pulls a Petrino, but who knows. His offensive system is working, more-or-less. It's the defense that's causing him problems. That plus the injuries always made this season difficult for them. I'm intrigued to see what happens going forward.

[jayasena]

What little I know (mostly from the internet) about Chip K. suggests he is far too methodical to give up that quickly. I'd be VERY surprised...

[jayasena]

What little I know (mostly from the internet) about Chip K. suggests he is far too methodical to give up that quickly. I'd be VERY surprised...

[needle]

Am I the only one who thinks Pep Hamilton might be a candidate?

[needle]

Am I the only one who thinks Pep Hamilton might be a candidate?

[Farm93]

Am I the only one who thinks Pep Hamilton might be a candidate?

Coaching Luck is one of the best fast track paths to an NFL HC position.  Pep will stay with the Colts for at least 2 years and then it will be NFL HC.  USC would actually slow the career path by quite a bit, and it would not be very satisfying.

I know every USC person thinks USC is the great place to be, but their opinions are exactly why I think it is a bad place for a coach with real potential.  Nothing but downside there, go anywhere else unless you really, really, really need the $$$.

[Farm93]

Am I the only one who thinks Pep Hamilton might be a candidate?

Coaching Luck is one of the best fast track paths to an NFL HC position.  Pep will stay with the Colts for at least 2 years and then it will be NFL HC.  USC would actually slow the career path by quite a bit, and it would not be very satisfying.

I know every USC person thinks USC is the great place to be, but their opinions are exactly why I think it is a bad place for a coach with real potential.  Nothing but downside there, go anywhere else unless you really, really, really need the $$$.

[washingtonismoney]

I know every Under Stanford Control person thinks Under Stanford Control is the great place to be, but their opinions are exactly why I think it is a bad place for a coach with real potential.  Nothing but downside there, go anywhere else unless you really, really, really need the $$$.

Huh? SC is one of the best jobs in the country. Yeah, sure, you have demanding fans but you'll have demanding fans in any place that's worth being. Given the amount of talent, history and cash the program commands, it's a great job.

[washingtonismoney]

I know every Under Stanford Control person thinks Under Stanford Control is the great place to be, but their opinions are exactly why I think it is a bad place for a coach with real potential.  Nothing but downside there, go anywhere else unless you really, really, really need the $$$.

Huh? SC is one of the best jobs in the country. Yeah, sure, you have demanding fans but you'll have demanding fans in any place that's worth being. Given the amount of talent, history and cash the program commands, it's a great job.

[SUBuddha]

Anyone else see Keyshawn (sp?) mention Herm Edwards. A quote along the lines of U$C is a great place for semi-failed NFL coaches to go to restart their careers. Gotta think Herm is going to be a bit pissed about that comment.

[SUBuddha]

Anyone else see Keyshawn (sp?) mention Herm Edwards. A quote along the lines of U$C is a great place for semi-failed NFL coaches to go to restart their careers. Gotta think Herm is going to be a bit pissed about that comment.