[Hank 91]

[quote author=JPRI link=topic=7902.msg107912#msg107912 date=1418150230]
[quote author=PrinceLightfoot link=topic=7902.msg107908#msg107908 date=1418148774]
How in the world to you miss a scheduled home visit? Sounds like a planned snub...he must have really not liked the suggestion to take the ACT again.

If you've gone to all the trouble to take the classes, how much extra trouble is it to just show up at the test center and spend a half a day retaking the test?
[/quote]

Well:

1/ You have to get psyched up to take it.  That takes energy and requires effort.

2/ If you are really serious about it, you should do some preparation.  That requires time and effort.

But yeah, it seems like the AP classes would be enough of a commitment that an extra ACT session shouldn't be that much a burden.
[/quote]

My feeling -- and this is just from reading the quotes, not from hearing tone of voice or seeing facial expressions -- was that he felt he had already done a fair amount and wasn't sure he wanted to do more. A lot of these elite recruits are in touch with each other, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine a conversation like this:

Stanford recruit: I have to go study, these three AP classes are killing me!
USC recruit: What's an AP class?
Stanford recruit: The Stanford coaches told me I had to take them senior year.
USC recruit: I have enough credits to graduate, so I'm good.
Stanford recruit: I also have to study for the SAT on Saturday.
USC recruit: Haven't you already taken that twice?
Stanford recruit: Oh, and then I have to really buckle down and work on my Stanford application.
USC recruit: What's an application?

At a certain point, there will always be some kids who get tired of the process. Sure, they've already taken the classes, but senioritis can be a powerful thing. Not everyone runs through the tape.

[Hank 91]

[quote author=JPRI link=topic=7902.msg107912#msg107912 date=1418150230]
[quote author=PrinceLightfoot link=topic=7902.msg107908#msg107908 date=1418148774]
How in the world to you miss a scheduled home visit? Sounds like a planned snub...he must have really not liked the suggestion to take the ACT again.

If you've gone to all the trouble to take the classes, how much extra trouble is it to just show up at the test center and spend a half a day retaking the test?
[/quote]

Well:

1/ You have to get psyched up to take it.  That takes energy and requires effort.

2/ If you are really serious about it, you should do some preparation.  That requires time and effort.

But yeah, it seems like the AP classes would be enough of a commitment that an extra ACT session shouldn't be that much a burden.
[/quote]

My feeling -- and this is just from reading the quotes, not from hearing tone of voice or seeing facial expressions -- was that he felt he had already done a fair amount and wasn't sure he wanted to do more. A lot of these elite recruits are in touch with each other, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine a conversation like this:

Stanford recruit: I have to go study, these three AP classes are killing me!
USC recruit: What's an AP class?
Stanford recruit: The Stanford coaches told me I had to take them senior year.
USC recruit: I have enough credits to graduate, so I'm good.
Stanford recruit: I also have to study for the SAT on Saturday.
USC recruit: Haven't you already taken that twice?
Stanford recruit: Oh, and then I have to really buckle down and work on my Stanford application.
USC recruit: What's an application?

At a certain point, there will always be some kids who get tired of the process. Sure, they've already taken the classes, but senioritis can be a powerful thing. Not everyone runs through the tape.

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=DC link=topic=7902.msg107951#msg107951 date=1418174761]
[quote author=JPRI link=topic=7902.msg107912#msg107912 date=1418150230]
[quote author=PrinceLightfoot link=topic=7902.msg107908#msg107908 date=1418148774]
How in the world to you miss a scheduled home visit? Sounds like a planned snub...he must have really not liked the suggestion to take the ACT again.

If you've gone to all the trouble to take the classes, how much extra trouble is it to just show up at the test center and spend a half a day retaking the test?
[/quote]

Well:

1/ You have to get psyched up to take it.  That takes energy and requires effort.

2/ If you are really serious about it, you should do some preparation.  That requires time and effort.

But yeah, it seems like the AP classes would be enough of a commitment that an extra ACT session shouldn't be that much a burden.
[/quote]

My feeling -- and this is just from reading the quotes, not from hearing tone of voice or seeing facial expressions -- was that he felt he had already done a fair amount and wasn't sure he wanted to do more. A lot of these elite recruits are in touch with each other, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine a conversation like this:

Stanford recruit: I have to go study, these three AP classes are killing me!
U$€ recruit: What's an AP class?
Stanford recruit: The Stanford coaches told me I had to take them senior year.
U$€ recruit: I have enough credits to graduate, so I'm good.
Stanford recruit: I also have to study for the SAT on Saturday.
U$€ recruit: Haven't you already taken that twice?
Stanford recruit: Oh, and then I have to really buckle down and work on my Stanford application.
U$€ recruit: What's an application?

At a certain point, there will always be some kids who get tired of the process. Sure, they've already taken the classes, but senioritis can be a powerful thing. Not everyone runs through the tape.
[/quote]

You're probably correct. When you are a star athlete being pursued by dozens of schools and Stanford is the only one asking you to do all this extra work to qualify, eventually you say enough is enough. Green has apparently reached that point.

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=DC link=topic=7902.msg107951#msg107951 date=1418174761]
[quote author=JPRI link=topic=7902.msg107912#msg107912 date=1418150230]
[quote author=PrinceLightfoot link=topic=7902.msg107908#msg107908 date=1418148774]
How in the world to you miss a scheduled home visit? Sounds like a planned snub...he must have really not liked the suggestion to take the ACT again.

If you've gone to all the trouble to take the classes, how much extra trouble is it to just show up at the test center and spend a half a day retaking the test?
[/quote]

Well:

1/ You have to get psyched up to take it.  That takes energy and requires effort.

2/ If you are really serious about it, you should do some preparation.  That requires time and effort.

But yeah, it seems like the AP classes would be enough of a commitment that an extra ACT session shouldn't be that much a burden.
[/quote]

My feeling -- and this is just from reading the quotes, not from hearing tone of voice or seeing facial expressions -- was that he felt he had already done a fair amount and wasn't sure he wanted to do more. A lot of these elite recruits are in touch with each other, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine a conversation like this:

Stanford recruit: I have to go study, these three AP classes are killing me!
U$€ recruit: What's an AP class?
Stanford recruit: The Stanford coaches told me I had to take them senior year.
U$€ recruit: I have enough credits to graduate, so I'm good.
Stanford recruit: I also have to study for the SAT on Saturday.
U$€ recruit: Haven't you already taken that twice?
Stanford recruit: Oh, and then I have to really buckle down and work on my Stanford application.
U$€ recruit: What's an application?

At a certain point, there will always be some kids who get tired of the process. Sure, they've already taken the classes, but senioritis can be a powerful thing. Not everyone runs through the tape.
[/quote]

You're probably correct. When you are a star athlete being pursued by dozens of schools and Stanford is the only one asking you to do all this extra work to qualify, eventually you say enough is enough. Green has apparently reached that point.

[TrumpCard]

The recruiting picture seems to be full of mystery and intrigue again this year.  It's mid-December and the class has only 11 public commits.  Does Shaw have a bunch of silent verbals?  Are there any stealth recruits this year?  Or are we just hoping that Shaw gets the good news from a high percentage of guys who are still undecided? 

[TrumpCard]

The recruiting picture seems to be full of mystery and intrigue again this year.  It's mid-December and the class has only 11 public commits.  Does Shaw have a bunch of silent verbals?  Are there any stealth recruits this year?  Or are we just hoping that Shaw gets the good news from a high percentage of guys who are still undecided? 

[Farm93]

The recruiting picture seems to be full of mystery and intrigue again this year.  It's mid-December and the class has only 11 public commits.  Does Shaw have a bunch of silent verbals?  Are there any stealth recruits this year?  Or are we just hoping that Shaw gets the good news from a high percentage of guys who are still undecided?

My guess has been that the AP classes are the proxy for verbals now.  If a 4 or 5 star recruit is taking two AP classes in their senior year then that's got to be at least as solid as a verbal, probably more solid really.

If the officially undecided athletes are taking AP courses and have submitted applications then all will be fine IF Stanford admits them.

Since the admission is the great unknown, I don't blame any of the athletes for electing not to declare.

[Farm93]

The recruiting picture seems to be full of mystery and intrigue again this year.  It's mid-December and the class has only 11 public commits.  Does Shaw have a bunch of silent verbals?  Are there any stealth recruits this year?  Or are we just hoping that Shaw gets the good news from a high percentage of guys who are still undecided?

My guess has been that the AP classes are the proxy for verbals now.  If a 4 or 5 star recruit is taking two AP classes in their senior year then that's got to be at least as solid as a verbal, probably more solid really.

If the officially undecided athletes are taking AP courses and have submitted applications then all will be fine IF Stanford admits them.

Since the admission is the great unknown, I don't blame any of the athletes for electing not to declare.

[TrumpCard]

I hope that there are high school football players out there who want to take 2 AP classes regardless of whether they are sure they want to attend Stanford. 

I think there are at least a few officially undecided players who will have no trouble gaining admission.  I suspect Buncom, St. Brown, and J. Reid are in that category.

[TrumpCard]

I hope that there are high school football players out there who want to take 2 AP classes regardless of whether they are sure they want to attend Stanford. 

I think there are at least a few officially undecided players who will have no trouble gaining admission.  I suspect Buncom, St. Brown, and J. Reid are in that category.

[Bruce Wang]

Stanford doesn't need to recruit.  It doesn't need to offer either.  It needs to admit . . . student-athletes that can handle the academics at Stanford.

[Bruce Wang]

Stanford doesn't need to recruit.  It doesn't need to offer either.  It needs to admit . . . student-athletes that can handle the academics at Stanford.

[JohnR34231]

I think Stanford wants to avoid the situation of having players commit and subsequently getting bad news from the admissions department. Kids in that situation sometimes raise a big stink about it (Rex Manu this year being the latest example) and that is definitely not good press for Stanford.

[JohnR34231]

I think Stanford wants to avoid the situation of having players commit and subsequently getting bad news from the admissions department. Kids in that situation sometimes raise a big stink about it (Rex Manu this year being the latest example) and that is definitely not good press for Stanford.

[Hank 91]

Four-star running back Cameron Scarlett is announcing his decision on Monday morning at 11:00 AM Stanford time. He's deciding between Stanford, Washington, and UCLA. He'd be a nice addition.

[Hank 91]

Four-star running back Cameron Scarlett is announcing his decision on Monday morning at 11:00 AM Stanford time. He's deciding between Stanford, Washington, and UCLA. He'd be a nice addition.

[washingtonismoney]

Four-star running back Cameron Scarlett is announcing his decision on Monday morning at 11:00 AM Stanford time. He's deciding between Stanford, Washington, and UCLA. He'd be a nice addition.

And by "nice" you mean "crucial."

[washingtonismoney]

Four-star running back Cameron Scarlett is announcing his decision on Monday morning at 11:00 AM Stanford time. He's deciding between Stanford, Washington, and UCLA. He'd be a nice addition.

And by "nice" you mean "crucial."

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=7902.msg108296#msg108296 date=1418618353]
Four-star running back Cameron Scarlett is announcing his decision on Monday morning at 11:00 AM Stanford time. He's deciding between Stanford, Washington, and UCLA. He'd be a nice addition.

And by "nice" you mean "crucial."
[/quote]

Crucial as long as we can count on him making a full recovery from his knee injury.

Which hopefully we can.

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=7902.msg108296#msg108296 date=1418618353]
Four-star running back Cameron Scarlett is announcing his decision on Monday morning at 11:00 AM Stanford time. He's deciding between Stanford, Washington, and UCLA. He'd be a nice addition.

And by "nice" you mean "crucial."
[/quote]

Crucial as long as we can count on him making a full recovery from his knee injury.

Which hopefully we can.

[stanfan95118]

I'm not sure he is the physical back some assume he is, but hopefully he can help.

[stanfan95118]

I'm not sure he is the physical back some assume he is, but hopefully he can help.

[JohnR34231]

I'm not sure he is the physical back some assume he is, but hopefully he can help.

Saw a report from a recruiting analyst who saw him play against (dare I say it) Josh Rosen's team. Said he was definitely a physical runner who rarely went down with the first contact.

[JohnR34231]

I'm not sure he is the physical back some assume he is, but hopefully he can help.

Saw a report from a recruiting analyst who saw him play against (dare I say it) Josh Rosen's team. Said he was definitely a physical runner who rarely went down with the first contact.

[Bruce Wang]

[quote author=stanfan95118 link=topic=7902.msg108328#msg108328 date=1418666716]
I'm not sure he is the physical back some assume he is, but hopefully he can help.

Saw a report from a recruiting analyst who saw him play against (dare I say it) Josh Rosen's team. Said he was definitely a physical runner who rarely went down with the first contact.
[/quote]

The Bruins faithful call him The Rosen One.

With regards to Scarlett, it is early action admissions notification season.  Kid I interviewed just let me know that he got in.  So let's hope The Scarlett Pimpernel got a big fat envelope, or I suppose, in this day and age, a long email with attachments?

[Bruce Wang]

[quote author=stanfan95118 link=topic=7902.msg108328#msg108328 date=1418666716]
I'm not sure he is the physical back some assume he is, but hopefully he can help.

Saw a report from a recruiting analyst who saw him play against (dare I say it) Josh Rosen's team. Said he was definitely a physical runner who rarely went down with the first contact.
[/quote]

The Bruins faithful call him The Rosen One.

With regards to Scarlett, it is early action admissions notification season.  Kid I interviewed just let me know that he got in.  So let's hope The Scarlett Pimpernel got a big fat envelope, or I suppose, in this day and age, a long email with attachments?

[BostonCard]

Admissions decisions for athletes do not follow the regular Stanford admissions calendar, so the fact that it is early action notification season is irrelevant.  Athletes are admitted as soon as their admissions materials have been reviewed if they are clearly admissible.

BC

[BostonCard]

Admissions decisions for athletes do not follow the regular Stanford admissions calendar, so the fact that it is early action notification season is irrelevant.  Athletes are admitted as soon as their admissions materials have been reviewed if they are clearly admissible.

BC

[theashwineffect]

Stanford it is for Cameron Scarlett!

[theashwineffect]

Stanford it is for Cameron Scarlett!

[TrumpCard]

Scarlett to Stanford, per Drukarev.

[TrumpCard]

Scarlett to Stanford, per Drukarev.

[Redrum]

UCLA, Oregon, Ore St., Washington, Wash St., Arizona, Arizona St., Cal... plus the Domers.  No idea how he'll do for us or even if he recovers fully from his ACL,  but you gotta love the odds on those offers.  Lots of experienced eyes looked at him play in person and on video.

[Redrum]

UCLA, Oregon, Ore St., Washington, Wash St., Arizona, Arizona St., Cal... plus the Domers.  No idea how he'll do for us or even if he recovers fully from his ACL,  but you gotta love the odds on those offers.  Lots of experienced eyes looked at him play in person and on video.

[washingtonismoney]

[tweet]544580596685488128[/tweet]

Mostly a Rivals effect -- on 247's composite measurement he's the #271 player overall: very solid, but not spectacular.

[washingtonismoney]

[tweet]544580596685488128[/tweet]

Mostly a Rivals effect -- on 247's composite measurement he's the #271 player overall: very solid, but not spectacular.

[washingtonismoney]

And in other important recruiting developments:

[tweet]544569458576998400[/tweet]

[washingtonismoney]

And in other important recruiting developments:

[tweet]544569458576998400[/tweet]

[Hank 91]

The Bruins faithful call him The Rosen One.

I prefer our Chryst figure to theirs.

[Hank 91]

The Bruins faithful call him The Rosen One.

I prefer our Chryst figure to theirs.