Ducks and Utes are beating each other up. Sabally went to the locker room with an ankle issue.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(03-04-2022, 10:25 PM)TonyLima Wrote:(03-04-2022, 10:21 PM)jonnyss Wrote:(03-04-2022, 10:09 PM)paloalto Wrote: Hollingshed lost her composure for a few seconds which I understand and can forgive. I can not understand the refs not calling more than a regular foul.
it was called more than a common foul. it was called an intentional, which is the women's NCAA bb term for a flagrant 1.
so was cam's.
the call was "offsetting intentional fouls."
Which is a bs call. Hollingshead was clearly the instigator. She should have been tossed. But she did light a spark under the team. Thank you, Ms. Hollingshead.
(03-04-2022, 10:00 PM)WBB fan Wrote: Payne is a pain, and that's how I'm spelling her name from now on. I m in the Hollinshed should have been ejected camp. Not only was she showing Cam in the face, and not gently, she also had a hand on Cam's throat in the midst of it, all from the slow-video I saw of the events. But yes, Cam should not have thrown the ball, even if it's understandable.
Agree with everything except the part about Cam. When you’re being mugged, self-defense is always warranted.
(03-04-2022, 09:07 PM)martyup Wrote: We win 71-46. We ended up shooting 48.2/53.8/90.9. CO has one of the toughest defenses in the Pac-12, so I'm not worried about our ability to score in the post season.
Brink ended up 1 rebound away from a double-double.
Tough defense is easy when your team is a bunch of thugs.
(03-04-2022, 08:26 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(03-04-2022, 07:38 PM)crackpot Wrote:I agree with Tara's halftime take that the refs handled it well. Hollingshed could easily have been ejected. Cam had to get called for retaliation, but what she did there was much less. However, I was totally fine with calling the same thing on both and letting the teams play on.(03-04-2022, 07:31 PM)martyup Wrote: There goes Hollingshed. I called it!
(03-04-2022, 07:31 PM)mbdude Wrote: Brink is gone after that
No way. Hollingshed was the aggressor. Brink has the right to defend herself when being assaulted with a hand pushing her face.
I can't believe that Hollingshed didn't get a technical foul for that. Total BS. She kept pushing Cam's face long after the whistle blew.
I can't believe they both didn't get tossed. Cam shouldn't have thrown the ball at her. And besides grabbing her face and not letting go, she shoved Lexie a few times in there.
Disagree vehemently. Hollingshed was the instigator.
(03-04-2022, 10:25 PM)TonyLima Wrote:(03-04-2022, 10:21 PM)jonnyss Wrote:(03-04-2022, 10:09 PM)paloalto Wrote: Hollingshed lost her composure for a few seconds which I understand and can forgive. I can not understand the refs not calling more than a regular foul.
it was called more than a common foul. it was called an intentional, which is the women's NCAA bb term for a flagrant 1.
so was cam's.
the call was "offsetting intentional fouls."
Which is a bs call. Hollingshead was clearly the instigator. She should have been tossed. But she did light a spark under the team. Thank you, Ms. Hollingshead.
(03-04-2022, 10:00 PM)WBB fan Wrote: Payne is a pain, and that's how I'm spelling her name from now on. I m in the Hollinshed should have been ejected camp. Not only was she showing Cam in the face, and not gently, she also had a hand on Cam's throat in the midst of it, all from the slow-video I saw of the events. But yes, Cam should not have thrown the ball, even if it's understandable.
Agree with everything except the part about Cam. When you’re being mugged, self-defense is always warranted.
(03-04-2022, 09:07 PM)martyup Wrote: We win 71-46. We ended up shooting 48.2/53.8/90.9. CO has one of the toughest defenses in the Pac-12, so I'm not worried about our ability to score in the post season.
Brink ended up 1 rebound away from a double-double.
Tough defense is easy when your team is a bunch of thugs.
(03-04-2022, 08:26 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(03-04-2022, 07:38 PM)crackpot Wrote:I agree with Tara's halftime take that the refs handled it well. Hollingshed could easily have been ejected. Cam had to get called for retaliation, but what she did there was much less. However, I was totally fine with calling the same thing on both and letting the teams play on.(03-04-2022, 07:31 PM)martyup Wrote: There goes Hollingshed. I called it!
(03-04-2022, 07:31 PM)mbdude Wrote: Brink is gone after that
No way. Hollingshed was the aggressor. Brink has the right to defend herself when being assaulted with a hand pushing her face.
I can't believe that Hollingshed didn't get a technical foul for that. Total BS. She kept pushing Cam's face long after the whistle blew.
I can't believe they both didn't get tossed. Cam shouldn't have thrown the ball at her. And besides grabbing her face and not letting go, she shoved Lexie a few times in there.
Disagree vehemently. Hollingshed was the instigator.
Quote:Quote:I agree with Tara's halftime take that the refs handled it well. Hollingshed could easily have been ejected. Cam had to get called for retaliation, but what she did there was much less. However, I was totally fine with calling the same thing on both and letting the teams play on.
Disagree vehemently. Hollingshed was the instigator.
Quote:Quote:I agree with Tara's halftime take that the refs handled it well. Hollingshed could easily have been ejected. Cam had to get called for retaliation, but what she did there was much less. However, I was totally fine with calling the same thing on both and letting the teams play on.
Disagree vehemently. Hollingshed was the instigator.
(03-04-2022, 07:38 PM)crackpot Wrote: I can't believe they both didn't get tossed. Cam shouldn't have thrown the ball at her. And besides grabbing her face and not letting go, she shoved Lexie a few times in there.
Quote:Section 15. Suspensions for Fighting
Art. 1. A fight is a disqualifying foul.
Art. 2. A fight is a confrontation involving one or more players, coaches or
other team personnel wherein (but not limited to) a fist, hand, arm, foot, knee, or leg is used to combatively strike the other individual.
Art. 3. When, during a confrontation, an individual attempts to strike another individual with any of the actions defined in Art. 2, whether there is contact is irrelevant. The perpetrator shall be deemed to have been involved in a fight.
Art. 4. When, during a confrontation, an individual uses unsporting acts or comments that, in the opinion of the official, provoke the other individual to retaliate by fighting, it shall be ruled that both individuals have been involved in the fight.
Art. 5. When a physical confrontation has occurred, the officials shall determine the individuals who were involved in the fight or left the bench area to participate.
Art. 6. When, during the course of play (live ball), an individual strikes an opponent with the hand, elbow, arm, foot, knee or leg in a nonconfrontational manner and the act is not only excessive, but also severe or extreme, it shall be ruled as a disqualifying foul and not a fighting action. When a defined body part is used to strike an opponent, but the contact is not severe or extreme, a judgment shall be made by the official as to whether the contact is an intentional foul.
Art. 7. Anytime an individual uses a closed fist in an unsporting manner, it shall be deemed that the individual has initiated a fighting act and shall be penalized accordingly.
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Art. 10. The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season (including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended from participating in the team’s next regular-season game (not an exhibition contest), including tournament competition.
Art. 11. When an individual participates in a second fight during the same season, that individual shall be suspended for the remainder of the season, including tournament competition.
(03-04-2022, 07:38 PM)crackpot Wrote: I can't believe they both didn't get tossed. Cam shouldn't have thrown the ball at her. And besides grabbing her face and not letting go, she shoved Lexie a few times in there.
Quote:Section 15. Suspensions for Fighting
Art. 1. A fight is a disqualifying foul.
Art. 2. A fight is a confrontation involving one or more players, coaches or
other team personnel wherein (but not limited to) a fist, hand, arm, foot, knee, or leg is used to combatively strike the other individual.
Art. 3. When, during a confrontation, an individual attempts to strike another individual with any of the actions defined in Art. 2, whether there is contact is irrelevant. The perpetrator shall be deemed to have been involved in a fight.
Art. 4. When, during a confrontation, an individual uses unsporting acts or comments that, in the opinion of the official, provoke the other individual to retaliate by fighting, it shall be ruled that both individuals have been involved in the fight.
Art. 5. When a physical confrontation has occurred, the officials shall determine the individuals who were involved in the fight or left the bench area to participate.
Art. 6. When, during the course of play (live ball), an individual strikes an opponent with the hand, elbow, arm, foot, knee or leg in a nonconfrontational manner and the act is not only excessive, but also severe or extreme, it shall be ruled as a disqualifying foul and not a fighting action. When a defined body part is used to strike an opponent, but the contact is not severe or extreme, a judgment shall be made by the official as to whether the contact is an intentional foul.
Art. 7. Anytime an individual uses a closed fist in an unsporting manner, it shall be deemed that the individual has initiated a fighting act and shall be penalized accordingly.
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Art. 10. The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season (including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended from participating in the team’s next regular-season game (not an exhibition contest), including tournament competition.
Art. 11. When an individual participates in a second fight during the same season, that individual shall be suspended for the remainder of the season, including tournament competition.
(03-05-2022, 03:57 AM)M T Wrote: more hesitant to do more physical play. I don't think the game was called tighter. I just think more fouls were handed out (for non-fouls).I did notice this at the time. I figured it was a make-up call.
Did you notice the other female ref called a 5-second call in less than 3 seconds (per the clock on the screen)? I think she realized it, as about 10 seconds later she called a travel I couldn't see on the other team. (I believe this is the same ref I commented on her fast 5-second call in another game).
(03-05-2022, 03:57 AM)M T Wrote: more hesitant to do more physical play. I don't think the game was called tighter. I just think more fouls were handed out (for non-fouls).I did notice this at the time. I figured it was a make-up call.
Did you notice the other female ref called a 5-second call in less than 3 seconds (per the clock on the screen)? I think she realized it, as about 10 seconds later she called a travel I couldn't see on the other team. (I believe this is the same ref I commented on her fast 5-second call in another game).
(03-05-2022, 09:38 AM)BobK Wrote: What really amazed me watching the Utah Oregon game in person was how really quick Utah is. Offense abd Defense bothBob, do you think Tara will need to go small to keep up with the quickness of Utah?
MCFarland is out but Rees did a great job in the post
Hate this day off lol need more basketball
(03-05-2022, 09:38 AM)BobK Wrote: What really amazed me watching the Utah Oregon game in person was how really quick Utah is. Offense abd Defense bothBob, do you think Tara will need to go small to keep up with the quickness of Utah?
MCFarland is out but Rees did a great job in the post
Hate this day off lol need more basketball
(03-04-2022, 10:24 PM)martyup Wrote: I don't think Cam violated rule 10-15.2, which defines fighting as striking with a "fist, hand, arm, foot, knee, or leg." However, she surely could have been called for T foul for throwing the ball in retaliation. OTOH, Hollingshed clearly violated the rule.
(03-04-2022, 10:24 PM)martyup Wrote: I don't think Cam violated rule 10-15.2, which defines fighting as striking with a "fist, hand, arm, foot, knee, or leg." However, she surely could have been called for T foul for throwing the ball in retaliation. OTOH, Hollingshed clearly violated the rule.