11-09-2022, 02:05 PM
Hidalgo is planning to announce her choice on the last day of the signing period (presumably next Wednesday November 16). We will know Watkins choice before then.
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11-09-2022, 05:00 PM
Hidalgo and Watkins are unusually quiet about their choices. Not even Cardboard detectives can dig up any clues.
And no “crystal balls” from the media.
And no “crystal balls” from the media.
(11-09-2022, 05:00 PM)Spike Wrote: Hidalgo and Watkins are unusually quiet about their choices. Not even Cardboard detectives can dig up any clues.
And no “crystal balls” from the media.
I really don't think anyone has any inside at least that's been reported. Men's college basketball recruiting is a lot better at crystal ball predictions.
I don't think Watkins goes to SC (she is on record saying playing close to home is important to her) so USC or Stanford seem to make more sense. IMO, we make the most sense if she really wants to win a national championship. USC has only one 2023 commit. They only signed one recruit in last years 2022 recruiting cycle. Here's a tweet from an LA times reporter today.
https://twitter.com/latsondheimer/status...9634818050
It's almost like Hidalgo is waiting to see if Watkins picks Stanford before she announces herself. It could also just be a coincidence with regard to timing. It seems unlikely we'd got both recruits. I hope we get at least get one though!
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2022, 06:04 PM by Card10Fan.)
(11-09-2022, 05:00 PM)Spike Wrote: Hidalgo and Watkins are unusually quiet about their choices. Not even Cardboard detectives can dig up any clues.
And no “crystal balls” from the media.
I really don't think anyone has any inside at least that's been reported. Men's college basketball recruiting is a lot better at crystal ball predictions.
I don't think Watkins goes to SC (she is on record saying playing close to home is important to her) so USC or Stanford seem to make more sense. IMO, we make the most sense if she really wants to win a national championship. USC has only one 2023 commit. They only signed one recruit in last years 2022 recruiting cycle. Here's a tweet from an LA times reporter today.
https://twitter.com/latsondheimer/status...9634818050
It's almost like Hidalgo is waiting to see if Watkins picks Stanford before she announces herself. It could also just be a coincidence with regard to timing. It seems unlikely we'd got both recruits. I hope we get at least get one though!
11-09-2022, 05:47 PM
(11-09-2022, 05:34 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:(11-09-2022, 05:00 PM)Spike Wrote: Hidalgo and Watkins are unusually quiet about their choices. Not even Cardboard detectives can dig up any clues.
And no “crystal balls” from the media.
I really don't think anyone has any inside at least that's been reported. Men's college basketball recruiting is a lot better at crystal ball predictions.
I don't think Watkins goes to SC (she is on record saying playing close to home is important to her) so USC or Stanford seem to make more sense. IMO, we make the most sense if she really wants to win a national championship. USC has only one 2023 commit. They only signed one recruit in last years 2022 recruiting cycle. Here's a tweet from an LA times reporter today.
https://twitter.com/latsondheimer/status...9634818050
It's almost like Hidalgo is waiting to see if Watkins picks Stanford before she announces herself. It could also just be a coincidence with regard to timing. It seems unlikely we'd got both recruits. I hope we at least get one though!
I agree that I think it's down to USC and Stanford, and think her being from Watts/Compton is a storyline for staying in Southern California, IE that tweet that the buzz is building, I can see that.
I think Duke is the biggest threat for Hidalgo, especially with the class they have coming in.
And you know, with the depth we have and what we saw from Lepolo and Nivar, I'm not too worried if we don't get these two recruits, we have a ton of talent returning next year and in the future.
(11-09-2022, 05:34 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:(11-09-2022, 05:00 PM)Spike Wrote: Hidalgo and Watkins are unusually quiet about their choices. Not even Cardboard detectives can dig up any clues.
And no “crystal balls” from the media.
I really don't think anyone has any inside at least that's been reported. Men's college basketball recruiting is a lot better at crystal ball predictions.
I don't think Watkins goes to SC (she is on record saying playing close to home is important to her) so USC or Stanford seem to make more sense. IMO, we make the most sense if she really wants to win a national championship. USC has only one 2023 commit. They only signed one recruit in last years 2022 recruiting cycle. Here's a tweet from an LA times reporter today.
https://twitter.com/latsondheimer/status...9634818050
It's almost like Hidalgo is waiting to see if Watkins picks Stanford before she announces herself. It could also just be a coincidence with regard to timing. It seems unlikely we'd got both recruits. I hope we at least get one though!
I agree that I think it's down to USC and Stanford, and think her being from Watts/Compton is a storyline for staying in Southern California, IE that tweet that the buzz is building, I can see that.
I think Duke is the biggest threat for Hidalgo, especially with the class they have coming in.
And you know, with the depth we have and what we saw from Lepolo and Nivar, I'm not too worried if we don't get these two recruits, we have a ton of talent returning next year and in the future.
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2022, 08:34 AM by Hoops9092.)
(11-09-2022, 08:02 PM)mbdude Wrote: more rumors from ND board - hidalgo Duke, prosper AZ
Unfortunately, I think that makes a lot of sense for Hidalgo and would be a great duo for Lawson to snag with top SG Donovan.
Prosper to Arizona would be a big get for Barnes to cap off this class.
Returning players and incoming committed 2023 recruits for Stanford
for next season:
SF: OGDEN 6'1 (freshman)
SF: DEMETRE 6'3
PF: AGARA 6'2 (freshman)
PF: IRIAFEN 6'3
PF: BRINK 6'4
C: BETTS 6'7
SG: EMMA-NNOPU 5'11
SG: BOSGANA 6'2
SG: PAPADAKI 5'11
SG: FIELDS 5'9
SG: CLARDY 5'9 (freshman)
SG/PG: NIVAR 5'10
SG/PG: HARRIEL 5'10
PG: LEPOLO 5'7
2023 #1 WATKINS (SG/SF) and #5 HIDALGO (PG) are looking
at this 14-man Stanford roster for next season and are most
probably thinking, "Man, that's more than a complete team already!"
For WATKINS - NINE (9) potential teammates (that's a LOT!)
playing the same position at SG or SF
For HIDALGO - LEPOLO is the only pure upperclassman PG
that she will compete for PG playing time
Looking at South Carolina's returning upperclassmen
and committed incoming 2023 recruits for next season:
SF: JAH 6'1 (freshman)
PF: FEAGIN 6'3
PF: WATKINS 6'3
PF: KITTS 6'2 (freshman)
C: CARDOSO 6'7
SG: HALL 6'0
SG: JOHNSON Tessa 5'10 (freshman)
PG: COOPER 6'0
PG: JOHNSON Raven 5'8
With only 6 returning upperclassmen and 3 committed 2023 recruits,
and only 2 SGs and one SF in this roster, might be a more desirable
situation for #1 WATKINS
for next season:
SF: OGDEN 6'1 (freshman)
SF: DEMETRE 6'3
PF: AGARA 6'2 (freshman)
PF: IRIAFEN 6'3
PF: BRINK 6'4
C: BETTS 6'7
SG: EMMA-NNOPU 5'11
SG: BOSGANA 6'2
SG: PAPADAKI 5'11
SG: FIELDS 5'9
SG: CLARDY 5'9 (freshman)
SG/PG: NIVAR 5'10
SG/PG: HARRIEL 5'10
PG: LEPOLO 5'7
2023 #1 WATKINS (SG/SF) and #5 HIDALGO (PG) are looking
at this 14-man Stanford roster for next season and are most
probably thinking, "Man, that's more than a complete team already!"
For WATKINS - NINE (9) potential teammates (that's a LOT!)
playing the same position at SG or SF
For HIDALGO - LEPOLO is the only pure upperclassman PG
that she will compete for PG playing time
Looking at South Carolina's returning upperclassmen
and committed incoming 2023 recruits for next season:
SF: JAH 6'1 (freshman)
PF: FEAGIN 6'3
PF: WATKINS 6'3
PF: KITTS 6'2 (freshman)
C: CARDOSO 6'7
SG: HALL 6'0
SG: JOHNSON Tessa 5'10 (freshman)
PG: COOPER 6'0
PG: JOHNSON Raven 5'8
With only 6 returning upperclassmen and 3 committed 2023 recruits,
and only 2 SGs and one SF in this roster, might be a more desirable
situation for #1 WATKINS
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2022, 10:57 PM by joemontes.)
Returning players and incoming committed 2023 recruits for Stanford
for next season:
SF: OGDEN 6'1 (freshman)
SF: DEMETRE 6'3
PF: AGARA 6'2 (freshman)
PF: IRIAFEN 6'3
PF: BRINK 6'4
C: BETTS 6'7
SG: EMMA-NNOPU 5'11
SG: BOSGANA 6'2
SG: PAPADAKI 5'11
SG: FIELDS 5'9
SG: CLARDY 5'9 (freshman)
SG/PG: NIVAR 5'10
SG/PG: HARRIEL 5'10
PG: LEPOLO 5'7
2023 #1 WATKINS (SG/SF) and #5 HIDALGO (PG) are looking
at this 14-man Stanford roster for next season and are most
probably thinking, "Man, that's more than a complete team already!"
For WATKINS - NINE (9) potential teammates (that's a LOT!)
playing the same position at SG or SF
For HIDALGO - LEPOLO is the only pure upperclassman PG
that she will compete for PG playing time
Looking at South Carolina's returning upperclassmen
and committed incoming 2023 recruits for next season:
SF: JAH 6'1 (freshman)
PF: FEAGIN 6'3
PF: WATKINS 6'3
PF: KITTS 6'2 (freshman)
C: CARDOSO 6'7
SG: HALL 6'0
SG: JOHNSON Tessa 5'10 (freshman)
PG: COOPER 6'0
PG: JOHNSON Raven 5'8
With only 6 returning upperclassmen and 3 committed 2023 recruits,
and only 2 SGs and one SF in this roster, might be a more desirable
situation for #1 WATKINS
for next season:
SF: OGDEN 6'1 (freshman)
SF: DEMETRE 6'3
PF: AGARA 6'2 (freshman)
PF: IRIAFEN 6'3
PF: BRINK 6'4
C: BETTS 6'7
SG: EMMA-NNOPU 5'11
SG: BOSGANA 6'2
SG: PAPADAKI 5'11
SG: FIELDS 5'9
SG: CLARDY 5'9 (freshman)
SG/PG: NIVAR 5'10
SG/PG: HARRIEL 5'10
PG: LEPOLO 5'7
2023 #1 WATKINS (SG/SF) and #5 HIDALGO (PG) are looking
at this 14-man Stanford roster for next season and are most
probably thinking, "Man, that's more than a complete team already!"
For WATKINS - NINE (9) potential teammates (that's a LOT!)
playing the same position at SG or SF
For HIDALGO - LEPOLO is the only pure upperclassman PG
that she will compete for PG playing time
Looking at South Carolina's returning upperclassmen
and committed incoming 2023 recruits for next season:
SF: JAH 6'1 (freshman)
PF: FEAGIN 6'3
PF: WATKINS 6'3
PF: KITTS 6'2 (freshman)
C: CARDOSO 6'7
SG: HALL 6'0
SG: JOHNSON Tessa 5'10 (freshman)
PG: COOPER 6'0
PG: JOHNSON Raven 5'8
With only 6 returning upperclassmen and 3 committed 2023 recruits,
and only 2 SGs and one SF in this roster, might be a more desirable
situation for #1 WATKINS
11-10-2022, 01:19 AM
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(11-09-2022, 10:56 PM)joemontes Wrote: With only 6 returning upperclassmen and 3 committed 2023 recruits,
and only 2 SGs and one SF in this roster, might be a more desirable
situation for #1 WATKINS
imo roster numbers aren't critical for a top recruit. haley and cam didn't have to worry about playing time. lauren doesn't have to worry about playing time. juju won't have to worry about playing time at stanford.
if juju chooses stanford, it's indya &/or nunu, courtney, agnes, elena, etc., who will potentially lose playing time (as fran and ashten are this year). hopefully, we'll be so far ahead in most games that tara will still fit them in.
imo stanford will showcase juju best as she will have the post players to complement her game and to limit double-teams.
(11-09-2022, 10:56 PM)joemontes Wrote: With only 6 returning upperclassmen and 3 committed 2023 recruits,
and only 2 SGs and one SF in this roster, might be a more desirable
situation for #1 WATKINS
imo roster numbers aren't critical for a top recruit. haley and cam didn't have to worry about playing time. lauren doesn't have to worry about playing time. juju won't have to worry about playing time at stanford.
if juju chooses stanford, it's indya &/or nunu, courtney, agnes, elena, etc., who will potentially lose playing time (as fran and ashten are this year). hopefully, we'll be so far ahead in most games that tara will still fit them in.
imo stanford will showcase juju best as she will have the post players to complement her game and to limit double-teams.
11-10-2022, 10:30 AM
Having headed down this road way too many times, I am just mentally prepared for us to go 0/2. Kiki Rice, Azzi Fudd, the point guard who went to Notre Dame. I hope I am wrong, and I have no particular insight, but I just have a bad feeling.
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Having headed down this road way too many times, I am just mentally prepared for us to go 0/2. Kiki Rice, Azzi Fudd, the point guard who went to Notre Dame. I hope I am wrong, and I have no particular insight, but I just have a bad feeling.
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11-10-2022, 11:54 AM
(11-10-2022, 10:30 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Having headed down this road way too many times, I am just mentally prepared for us to go 0/2. Kiki Rice, Azzi Fudd, the point guard who went to Notre Dame. I hope I am wrong, and I have no particular insight, but I just have a bad feeling.
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To be fair though, only Rice was admitted to Stanford. Both Miles and Fudd committed too early to even have a chance at the application process at Stanford.
A better analogy would have been Katie Lou Samuelson. Wasn’t Deja Kelly if UNC also admitted but went to North Carolina instead?
(11-10-2022, 10:30 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Having headed down this road way too many times, I am just mentally prepared for us to go 0/2. Kiki Rice, Azzi Fudd, the point guard who went to Notre Dame. I hope I am wrong, and I have no particular insight, but I just have a bad feeling.
BC
To be fair though, only Rice was admitted to Stanford. Both Miles and Fudd committed too early to even have a chance at the application process at Stanford.
A better analogy would have been Katie Lou Samuelson. Wasn’t Deja Kelly if UNC also admitted but went to North Carolina instead?
11-10-2022, 12:25 PM
Nunu, Juju, it's so confusing my mind is going Kookoo.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
11-10-2022, 12:33 PM
I for one am taking a deep breath as it is completely out of our and Stanford's control. If she wants a run at national championships, basketball skills growth and great academics while being a mere 1 hour flight from home this is it. If not, then she has decided that other priorities matter more and the above are not as high criteria.
I for one am taking a deep breath as it is completely out of our and Stanford's control. If she wants a run at national championships, basketball skills growth and great academics while being a mere 1 hour flight from home this is it. If not, then she has decided that other priorities matter more and the above are not as high criteria.
(11-09-2022, 08:31 AM)Hoops9092 Wrote: The last uncommitted recruits in the top 40 per ESPN.As expected, #13 ESPN/#3 PN overall 5'6 PG Milaysia FULWILEY to South Carolina.
#1 Ju Ju Watkins, 6'1 G (CA) — Announcing "early next week" per ESPN article.
Finalists: South Carolina, USC and Stanford per ESPN article today.
Link: https://www.instagram.com/jujubballin/?hl=en
ESPN #1, PN #2
#5 Hannah Hidalgo, 5'7 PG (NJ) — No updates. (!)
Finalists: Duke, Notre Dame, Stanford appear to be only official visits. Michigan and Ohio State in top 5 too.
Link: https://www.instagram.com/hannah.hidalgo3/
ESPN #5, PN #9
#13 Milaysia Fulwiley, 5'9 PG (SC) — Announcing Thursday, 11/10 @ 11am PST
Finalists: South Carolina, Louisville, Ole Miss, Florida
Link: https://www.instagram.com/laywitdabutter/?hl=en
ESPN #13, PN #3
#16 Cassandre Prosper, 6'2 F (CAN) — Announcing Saturday, 11/12 @ 5pm PST
Finalists: Arizona, Duke, Notre Dame, South Carolina, North Carolina
ESPN #16, ASGR #1 (!), PN #21
Link: https://www.instagram.com/cassprosper/
#19 Laila Reynolds, 6'0 G (MD) — Announcing Friday, 11/11 @ 3pm PST
Finalists: UCLA, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi State
Link: https://www.instagram.com/iamlairey/?hl=en
#27 Oluchi Okananwa, 5'9 G (MA) — Announcing Thursday, 11/10 @ 3:30pm PST
Finalists: Rutgers, TCU, Duke, Michigan, Harvard, Mississippi State
Link: https://twitter.com/oluchi_okananwa
A great scoring PG.
South Carolina now has the following 2023 commits:
#13 (96): Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 PG
#17 (96): Chloe KITTS 6'2 PF
#25 (95): Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 SG
#40 (94): Sahnya JAH 6'1 SF
Previously #6 recruiting class, the addition of FULWILEY enables South Carolina
to overtake previous #3 UConn, #4 Stanford and #5 North Carolina
and settles in as having the #3 overall recruiting class, just behind
#1 LSU and #2 Arizona.
South Carolina's 2023-2024 roster now has the following:
SF: Sahnya JAH 6'1 (#40 overall in 2023)
PF: Sania FEAGIN 6'3 (#4 overall in 2021)
PF: Ashlyn WATKINS 6'3 (#12 overall in 2022)
PF: Chloe KITTS 6'3 (#17 overall in 2023)
C: Kamilla CARDOSO 6'7 (#5 overall in 2020)
SG: Bryanna HALL 6'0 (#14 overall in 2021)
SG: Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 (#25 overall in 2023)
PG: Talaysia COOPER 6'0 (#18 overall in 2022)
PG: Raven JOHNSON 5'8 (#2 overall in 2021)
PG: Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 (#13 overall in 2023)
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2022, 12:55 PM by joemontes.)
(11-09-2022, 08:31 AM)Hoops9092 Wrote: The last uncommitted recruits in the top 40 per ESPN.As expected, #13 ESPN/#3 PN overall 5'6 PG Milaysia FULWILEY to South Carolina.
#1 Ju Ju Watkins, 6'1 G (CA) — Announcing "early next week" per ESPN article.
Finalists: South Carolina, USC and Stanford per ESPN article today.
Link: https://www.instagram.com/jujubballin/?hl=en
ESPN #1, PN #2
#5 Hannah Hidalgo, 5'7 PG (NJ) — No updates. (!)
Finalists: Duke, Notre Dame, Stanford appear to be only official visits. Michigan and Ohio State in top 5 too.
Link: https://www.instagram.com/hannah.hidalgo3/
ESPN #5, PN #9
#13 Milaysia Fulwiley, 5'9 PG (SC) — Announcing Thursday, 11/10 @ 11am PST
Finalists: South Carolina, Louisville, Ole Miss, Florida
Link: https://www.instagram.com/laywitdabutter/?hl=en
ESPN #13, PN #3
#16 Cassandre Prosper, 6'2 F (CAN) — Announcing Saturday, 11/12 @ 5pm PST
Finalists: Arizona, Duke, Notre Dame, South Carolina, North Carolina
ESPN #16, ASGR #1 (!), PN #21
Link: https://www.instagram.com/cassprosper/
#19 Laila Reynolds, 6'0 G (MD) — Announcing Friday, 11/11 @ 3pm PST
Finalists: UCLA, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi State
Link: https://www.instagram.com/iamlairey/?hl=en
#27 Oluchi Okananwa, 5'9 G (MA) — Announcing Thursday, 11/10 @ 3:30pm PST
Finalists: Rutgers, TCU, Duke, Michigan, Harvard, Mississippi State
Link: https://twitter.com/oluchi_okananwa
A great scoring PG.
South Carolina now has the following 2023 commits:
#13 (96): Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 PG
#17 (96): Chloe KITTS 6'2 PF
#25 (95): Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 SG
#40 (94): Sahnya JAH 6'1 SF
Previously #6 recruiting class, the addition of FULWILEY enables South Carolina
to overtake previous #3 UConn, #4 Stanford and #5 North Carolina
and settles in as having the #3 overall recruiting class, just behind
#1 LSU and #2 Arizona.
South Carolina's 2023-2024 roster now has the following:
SF: Sahnya JAH 6'1 (#40 overall in 2023)
PF: Sania FEAGIN 6'3 (#4 overall in 2021)
PF: Ashlyn WATKINS 6'3 (#12 overall in 2022)
PF: Chloe KITTS 6'3 (#17 overall in 2023)
C: Kamilla CARDOSO 6'7 (#5 overall in 2020)
SG: Bryanna HALL 6'0 (#14 overall in 2021)
SG: Tessa JOHNSON 5'10 (#25 overall in 2023)
PG: Talaysia COOPER 6'0 (#18 overall in 2022)
PG: Raven JOHNSON 5'8 (#2 overall in 2021)
PG: Milaysia FULWILEY 5'6 (#13 overall in 2023)
11-10-2022, 12:46 PM
Am I the only one thinking that the best ‘late’ recruiting pitch for recruits like Watkins and Hidalgo was Haley Jones’ media exposure via Jeopardy and her Nike deal? To the extent that 5-star recruits are also thinking about brand development (honestly not my favorite thing but a reality), Jones is a magnificent example - “Made the 40 year decision and I won a natty with Tara; hey, decided to play point this year; wearing my Nike gear and off to shoot my Jeopardy segment…”
Am I the only one thinking that the best ‘late’ recruiting pitch for recruits like Watkins and Hidalgo was Haley Jones’ media exposure via Jeopardy and her Nike deal? To the extent that 5-star recruits are also thinking about brand development (honestly not my favorite thing but a reality), Jones is a magnificent example - “Made the 40 year decision and I won a natty with Tara; hey, decided to play point this year; wearing my Nike gear and off to shoot my Jeopardy segment…”
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