11-27-2021, 06:02 PM
Jake Peavy?
Outside Topic Sports trivia thread 2020-2021
(11-27-2021, 05:52 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(11-27-2021, 05:15 PM)Mick Wrote: Bonds, Lincecum, Kent, all correct. Five more.
BTW, not sports trivia there are two actresses who have achieved an Oscar, an Emmy, a Grammy and a Tony and who have achieved individual Oscar, Emmy and Tony awards. Any idea who they are?
Rita Moreno was the first. Interesting that Spielberg is remaking West Side Story and he cast her in an older role.
Helen Hayes was the other. The new West Side Story will be out on January 12.
Bonds, Lincecum, Kent, Peavy all correct. Four more - a catcher, a shortstop, a starting pitcher, and a relief pitcher.
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(11-27-2021, 05:52 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(11-27-2021, 05:15 PM)Mick Wrote: Bonds, Lincecum, Kent, all correct. Five more.
BTW, not sports trivia there are two actresses who have achieved an Oscar, an Emmy, a Grammy and a Tony and who have achieved individual Oscar, Emmy and Tony awards. Any idea who they are?
Rita Moreno was the first. Interesting that Spielberg is remaking West Side Story and he cast her in an older role.
Helen Hayes was the other. The new West Side Story will be out on January 12.
Bonds, Lincecum, Kent, Peavy all correct. Four more - a catcher, a shortstop, a starting pitcher, and a relief pitcher.
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11-29-2021, 08:04 AM
What longtime MLB infielder had a longer career as an actor including a small role in Hitchcock’s “North by Northwest?”
11-29-2021, 12:18 PM
Former Giants on the 2022 Hall of Fame ballot:
1. Barry Bonds
2. Tim Lincecum
3. Jeff Kent
4. Jake Peavy
5. Omar Vizquel
6. Joe Nathan
7. Tim Hudson
8. A.J. Pierzynski (of all people). Him, I don't get. Apart from the fact that he was a crank, he was an average hitter (.739 OPS, .280 BA), and a terrible fielder (was in top five stolen bases allowed eight times, top five passed balls five times). His only year with the Giants, he led the league in grounding into double plays, the only offensive category he ever led the league. All-star twice in a 19 year career, silver slugger once. 4x as many passed balls as Posey. Range factor below league average.
1. Barry Bonds
2. Tim Lincecum
3. Jeff Kent
4. Jake Peavy
5. Omar Vizquel
6. Joe Nathan
7. Tim Hudson
8. A.J. Pierzynski (of all people). Him, I don't get. Apart from the fact that he was a crank, he was an average hitter (.739 OPS, .280 BA), and a terrible fielder (was in top five stolen bases allowed eight times, top five passed balls five times). His only year with the Giants, he led the league in grounding into double plays, the only offensive category he ever led the league. All-star twice in a 19 year career, silver slugger once. 4x as many passed balls as Posey. Range factor below league average.
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Former Giants on the 2022 Hall of Fame ballot:
1. Barry Bonds
2. Tim Lincecum
3. Jeff Kent
4. Jake Peavy
5. Omar Vizquel
6. Joe Nathan
7. Tim Hudson
8. A.J. Pierzynski (of all people). Him, I don't get. Apart from the fact that he was a crank, he was an average hitter (.739 OPS, .280 BA), and a terrible fielder (was in top five stolen bases allowed eight times, top five passed balls five times). His only year with the Giants, he led the league in grounding into double plays, the only offensive category he ever led the league. All-star twice in a 19 year career, silver slugger once. 4x as many passed balls as Posey. Range factor below league average.
1. Barry Bonds
2. Tim Lincecum
3. Jeff Kent
4. Jake Peavy
5. Omar Vizquel
6. Joe Nathan
7. Tim Hudson
8. A.J. Pierzynski (of all people). Him, I don't get. Apart from the fact that he was a crank, he was an average hitter (.739 OPS, .280 BA), and a terrible fielder (was in top five stolen bases allowed eight times, top five passed balls five times). His only year with the Giants, he led the league in grounding into double plays, the only offensive category he ever led the league. All-star twice in a 19 year career, silver slugger once. 4x as many passed balls as Posey. Range factor below league average.
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Who am I?
1. Left-handed MLB slugger with his hometown statue depicting him as a right-handed batter.
2. Spoke fluent German with at least one teammate.
3. His wife was Johnny Mize's cousin.
4. Stole home 10 times in his career.
5. Famous quote when asked if he had any superstitions:
"Just one. When I hit a home run, I make sure that I touch all four bases." He also said:
"If it weren't for baseball, I'd either be in the penitentiary or the cemetery."
Who am I?
1. Left-handed MLB slugger with his hometown statue depicting him as a right-handed batter.
2. Spoke fluent German with at least one teammate.
3. His wife was Johnny Mize's cousin.
4. Stole home 10 times in his career.
5. Famous quote when asked if he had any superstitions:
"Just one. When I hit a home run, I make sure that I touch all four bases." He also said:
"If it weren't for baseball, I'd either be in the penitentiary or the cemetery."
Who am I?
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Who am I?
1. Left-handed MLB slugger with his hometown statue depicting him as a right-handed batter.
2. Spoke fluent German with at least one teammate.
3. His wife was Johnny Mize's cousin.
4. Stole home 10 times in his career.
5. Famous quote when asked if he had any superstitions:
"Just one. When I hit a home run, I make sure that I touch all four bases." He also said:
"If it weren't for baseball, I'd either be in the penitentiary or the cemetery."
Who am I?
1. Left-handed MLB slugger with his hometown statue depicting him as a right-handed batter.
2. Spoke fluent German with at least one teammate.
3. His wife was Johnny Mize's cousin.
4. Stole home 10 times in his career.
5. Famous quote when asked if he had any superstitions:
"Just one. When I hit a home run, I make sure that I touch all four bases." He also said:
"If it weren't for baseball, I'd either be in the penitentiary or the cemetery."
Who am I?
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11-29-2021, 08:04 PM
Jesus F****** C***** Bobbb, I just got home.
Yes Beradino of General Hospital. 1952 Topps card in my shelves.
Yes Beradino of General Hospital. 1952 Topps card in my shelves.
11-29-2021, 10:17 PM
So, Who on the Mick’s list do you think survives to next year (5% of ballots)
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So, Who on the Mick’s list do you think survives to next year (5% of ballots)
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(11-29-2021, 07:32 PM)Phogge Wrote: Gotta be Babe Ruth.
That's right.
(11-29-2021, 07:42 PM)BobK Wrote: Yes its the Babe
Phogge north by northwest just say I got it
You're both right.
Babe and Lou Gehrig both spoke fluent German.
Babe's statue in Baltimore, city of his birth, depicted him as a right handed slugger.
Most unbelievable to me is that he stole home 10 times. He was not fast, by any means. He stole 123 bases, got caught 117 times. Gehrig was similarly slow afoot, with an even worse percentage (102 steals, 100 caught) but he stole home 15 times.
By way of comparison, Rickey Henderson stole home just four times and Lou Brock never stole home. Rickey actually commented on it once, stating that up until Rod Carew (17 steals of home), pitchers would work from the windup with a runner on third base. They started to pitch from the stretch prior to Rickey's arrival.
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(11-29-2021, 07:32 PM)Phogge Wrote: Gotta be Babe Ruth.
That's right.
(11-29-2021, 07:42 PM)BobK Wrote: Yes its the Babe
Phogge north by northwest just say I got it
You're both right.
Babe and Lou Gehrig both spoke fluent German.
Babe's statue in Baltimore, city of his birth, depicted him as a right handed slugger.
Most unbelievable to me is that he stole home 10 times. He was not fast, by any means. He stole 123 bases, got caught 117 times. Gehrig was similarly slow afoot, with an even worse percentage (102 steals, 100 caught) but he stole home 15 times.
By way of comparison, Rickey Henderson stole home just four times and Lou Brock never stole home. Rickey actually commented on it once, stating that up until Rod Carew (17 steals of home), pitchers would work from the windup with a runner on third base. They started to pitch from the stretch prior to Rickey's arrival.
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11-30-2021, 07:49 AM
(11-30-2021, 07:34 AM)Mick Wrote: Most unbelievable to me is that he stole home 10 times. He was not fast, by any means. He stole 123 bases, got caught 117 times. Gehrig was similarly slow afoot, with an even worse percentage (102 steals, 100 caught) but he stole home 15 times.
By way of comparison, Rickey Henderson stole home just four times and Lou Brock never stole home. Rickey actually commented on it once, stating that up until Rod Carew (17 steals of home), pitchers would work from the windup with a runner on third base. They started to pitch from the stretch prior to Rickey's arrival.
Literally all of Ruth and Gehrig's steals of home were the front end of double steals, which was a common tactic then but is rarely employed now.
btw Gehrig wasn't slow; stolen base percentage is a poor proxy for running speed as I've previously shown.
(11-30-2021, 07:34 AM)Mick Wrote: Most unbelievable to me is that he stole home 10 times. He was not fast, by any means. He stole 123 bases, got caught 117 times. Gehrig was similarly slow afoot, with an even worse percentage (102 steals, 100 caught) but he stole home 15 times.
By way of comparison, Rickey Henderson stole home just four times and Lou Brock never stole home. Rickey actually commented on it once, stating that up until Rod Carew (17 steals of home), pitchers would work from the windup with a runner on third base. They started to pitch from the stretch prior to Rickey's arrival.
Literally all of Ruth and Gehrig's steals of home were the front end of double steals, which was a common tactic then but is rarely employed now.
btw Gehrig wasn't slow; stolen base percentage is a poor proxy for running speed as I've previously shown.
11-30-2021, 07:52 AM
(11-29-2021, 10:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote: So, Who on the Mick’s list do you think survives to next year (5% of ballots)
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Bonds falls off, it's his last year. I don't think he gets to 75%, same for Schilling, Sosa and Clemens, all of whom are in their 10th year.
Vizquel was on 49.1% last year, he'll survive to next year.
Kent was on 32.4% of the ballots, he'll make it to 2023.
Hudson is in his second year on the ballot, was named to 5.2%. I think he falls off. He had a great record for the A's (.702 %) and the Braves (.611), not so good for the Giants (.436 in two years). 4x all-star (once with a losing record), won 20 just once. No real unique qualities.
Peavy, Nathan, Lincecum, Pierzynski are all in their first year. I think Nathan and Lincecum survive to next year, I think Peavy and Pierzynski do not. Peavy had one great year, won the Cy Young. 3x all star, once with a losing record. Otherwise, unremarkable, 54% winning percentage. Pierzynski may not get a single vote, given his personality and lack of qualifications.
Joe Nathan is #8 saves all time. 6x all stars. HoF'ers behind him in saves are Fingers, Gossage and Sutter in that order. Nathan never led the league in saves, not once. Close, but I don't think it's enough.
Lincecum was 2x Cy Young winner, led league in strikeouts three years in a row. Electric pitcher. Never led league in wins or ERA, led league in losses once. Led league in WPs three times.
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(11-29-2021, 10:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote: So, Who on the Mick’s list do you think survives to next year (5% of ballots)
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Bonds falls off, it's his last year. I don't think he gets to 75%, same for Schilling, Sosa and Clemens, all of whom are in their 10th year.
Vizquel was on 49.1% last year, he'll survive to next year.
Kent was on 32.4% of the ballots, he'll make it to 2023.
Hudson is in his second year on the ballot, was named to 5.2%. I think he falls off. He had a great record for the A's (.702 %) and the Braves (.611), not so good for the Giants (.436 in two years). 4x all-star (once with a losing record), won 20 just once. No real unique qualities.
Peavy, Nathan, Lincecum, Pierzynski are all in their first year. I think Nathan and Lincecum survive to next year, I think Peavy and Pierzynski do not. Peavy had one great year, won the Cy Young. 3x all star, once with a losing record. Otherwise, unremarkable, 54% winning percentage. Pierzynski may not get a single vote, given his personality and lack of qualifications.
Joe Nathan is #8 saves all time. 6x all stars. HoF'ers behind him in saves are Fingers, Gossage and Sutter in that order. Nathan never led the league in saves, not once. Close, but I don't think it's enough.
Lincecum was 2x Cy Young winner, led league in strikeouts three years in a row. Electric pitcher. Never led league in wins or ERA, led league in losses once. Led league in WPs three times.
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(11-30-2021, 07:52 AM)Mick Wrote:(11-29-2021, 10:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote: So, Who on the Mick’s list do you think survives to next year (5% of ballots)
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Bonds falls off, it's his last year. I don't think he gets to 75%, same for Schilling, Sosa and Clemens, all of whom are in their 10th year.
Vizquel was on 49.1% last year, he'll survive to next year.
Kent was on 32.4% of the ballots, he'll make it to 2023.
Hudson is in his second year on the ballot, was named to 5.2%. I think he falls off. He had a great record for the A's (.702 %) and the Braves (.611), not so good for the Giants (.436 in two years). 4x all-star (once with a losing record), won 20 just once. No real unique qualities.
Peavy, Nathan, Lincecum, Pierzynski are all in their first year. I think Nathan and Lincecum survive to next year, I think Peavy and Pierzynski do not. Peavy had one great year, won the Cy Young. 3x all star, once with a losing record. Otherwise, unremarkable, 54% winning percentage. Pierzynski may not get a single vote, given his personality and lack of qualifications.
Joe Nathan is #8 saves all time. 6x all stars. HoF'ers behind him in saves are Fingers, Gossage and Sutter in that order. Nathan never led the league in saves, not once. Close, but I don't think it's enough.
Lincecum was 2x Cy Young winner, led league in strikeouts three years in a row. Electric pitcher. Never led league in wins or ERA, led league in losses once. Led league in WPs three times.
Lincecum - add: three rings and two no-hitters. I think he will find his way to the bottom of a lot of ballots given his unique pitching style and, of course, brief success. Besides, doesn’t being the most popular player during the team’s best era since the franchise moved west count for anything? Yeah, I know. It doesn’t.
(11-30-2021, 07:52 AM)Mick Wrote:(11-29-2021, 10:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote: So, Who on the Mick’s list do you think survives to next year (5% of ballots)
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Bonds falls off, it's his last year. I don't think he gets to 75%, same for Schilling, Sosa and Clemens, all of whom are in their 10th year.
Vizquel was on 49.1% last year, he'll survive to next year.
Kent was on 32.4% of the ballots, he'll make it to 2023.
Hudson is in his second year on the ballot, was named to 5.2%. I think he falls off. He had a great record for the A's (.702 %) and the Braves (.611), not so good for the Giants (.436 in two years). 4x all-star (once with a losing record), won 20 just once. No real unique qualities.
Peavy, Nathan, Lincecum, Pierzynski are all in their first year. I think Nathan and Lincecum survive to next year, I think Peavy and Pierzynski do not. Peavy had one great year, won the Cy Young. 3x all star, once with a losing record. Otherwise, unremarkable, 54% winning percentage. Pierzynski may not get a single vote, given his personality and lack of qualifications.
Joe Nathan is #8 saves all time. 6x all stars. HoF'ers behind him in saves are Fingers, Gossage and Sutter in that order. Nathan never led the league in saves, not once. Close, but I don't think it's enough.
Lincecum was 2x Cy Young winner, led league in strikeouts three years in a row. Electric pitcher. Never led league in wins or ERA, led league in losses once. Led league in WPs three times.
Lincecum - add: three rings and two no-hitters. I think he will find his way to the bottom of a lot of ballots given his unique pitching style and, of course, brief success. Besides, doesn’t being the most popular player during the team’s best era since the franchise moved west count for anything? Yeah, I know. It doesn’t.
11-30-2021, 10:59 AM
Ten players have hit their 300th home run in a Giants uniform. Name them.
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11-30-2021, 11:08 AM
(11-29-2021, 12:18 PM)Mick Wrote: 8. A.J. Pierzynski (of all people). Him, I don't get. Apart from the fact that he was a crank, he was an average hitter (.739 OPS, .280 BA), and a terrible fielder (was in top five stolen bases allowed eight times, top five passed balls five times). His only year with the Giants, he led the league in grounding into double plays, the only offensive category he ever led the league. All-star twice in a 19 year career, silver slugger once. 4x as many passed balls as Posey. Range factor below league average.
I agree that Pierzynski (together with Papelbon) is one of the weaker players on the ballot, although it doesn't really matter. But just out of curiosity, in what way does Range Factor measure a catcher's defensive ability?
(11-29-2021, 12:18 PM)Mick Wrote: 8. A.J. Pierzynski (of all people). Him, I don't get. Apart from the fact that he was a crank, he was an average hitter (.739 OPS, .280 BA), and a terrible fielder (was in top five stolen bases allowed eight times, top five passed balls five times). His only year with the Giants, he led the league in grounding into double plays, the only offensive category he ever led the league. All-star twice in a 19 year career, silver slugger once. 4x as many passed balls as Posey. Range factor below league average.
I agree that Pierzynski (together with Papelbon) is one of the weaker players on the ballot, although it doesn't really matter. But just out of curiosity, in what way does Range Factor measure a catcher's defensive ability?
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