[Roberton3]

[quote author=FarmBoy link=topic=12112.msg217853#msg217853 date=1512966265]
[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=12112.msg217847#msg217847 date=1512964225]
[quote author=FarmBoy link=topic=12112.msg217841#msg217841 date=1512962615]
He's taking a preferred walk on position with Stanford. I assume Harvard was offering some sort of scholarship money, so this is a big decision by this young man.

The Ivies don't do athletic scholarships, only need-based financial aid; technically ALL their athletes are walk-ons. If he qualifies for need-based financial aid at Harvard, I'd assume he'd receive similar aid at Stanford.
[/quote]

I had heard that was the official line, but that the Ivies have found work arounds to this rule for athletes they really wanted.
[/quote]

Whatever "work arounds" the Ivies might do (preferred admission status, standard financial aid--based on family income and assets, lucrative student jobs from alums/fans not allowed for students with athletic scholarships) Stanford can do too.
[/quote]

Exactly.  Most of the rumors about the Ivy-League "work arounds" come from need-based financial aid.  Many student athletes come from lower-income families, and the Ivies are generous with need-based aid for lower-income (and even middle-income) students (as is Stanford).  When an athlete from a low-income family gets a hefty scholarship to an Ivy, people who don't understand the way the Ivies work often think it's an athletic scholarship, not realizing that a non-athlete from the same family background would have gotten the same need-based scholarship.  (Of course, to get need-based financial aid, you need to be admitted first, and that's where being a gifted athlete makes a big difference.)

I would point out, though, that the last item you mentioned ("lucrative student jobs from alums/fans not allowed for students with athletic scholarships") is against both Ivy League and NCAA rules.  The rules covering student jobs for non-scholarship athletes are the same as for scholarship athletes.

[Roberton3]

[quote author=FarmBoy link=topic=12112.msg217853#msg217853 date=1512966265]
[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=12112.msg217847#msg217847 date=1512964225]
[quote author=FarmBoy link=topic=12112.msg217841#msg217841 date=1512962615]
He's taking a preferred walk on position with Stanford. I assume Harvard was offering some sort of scholarship money, so this is a big decision by this young man.

The Ivies don't do athletic scholarships, only need-based financial aid; technically ALL their athletes are walk-ons. If he qualifies for need-based financial aid at Harvard, I'd assume he'd receive similar aid at Stanford.
[/quote]

I had heard that was the official line, but that the Ivies have found work arounds to this rule for athletes they really wanted.
[/quote]

Whatever "work arounds" the Ivies might do (preferred admission status, standard financial aid--based on family income and assets, lucrative student jobs from alums/fans not allowed for students with athletic scholarships) Stanford can do too.
[/quote]

Exactly.  Most of the rumors about the Ivy-League "work arounds" come from need-based financial aid.  Many student athletes come from lower-income families, and the Ivies are generous with need-based aid for lower-income (and even middle-income) students (as is Stanford).  When an athlete from a low-income family gets a hefty scholarship to an Ivy, people who don't understand the way the Ivies work often think it's an athletic scholarship, not realizing that a non-athlete from the same family background would have gotten the same need-based scholarship.  (Of course, to get need-based financial aid, you need to be admitted first, and that's where being a gifted athlete makes a big difference.)

I would point out, though, that the last item you mentioned ("lucrative student jobs from alums/fans not allowed for students with athletic scholarships") is against both Ivy League and NCAA rules.  The rules covering student jobs for non-scholarship athletes are the same as for scholarship athletes.