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I don't think Dawkins is the guy to take Stanford to the status of perennial contender, which is where we want to be.

My bar is a little lower.  I expect that more often than not, Stanford makes the NCAA tournament without squeaking in and contends for a conference title.  Neither of these has happened during Dawkins' entire tenure.

The dynamics of college basketball have changed, but not to such a degree that this level of mediocrity is acceptable.

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I don't think Dawkins is the guy to take Stanford to the status of perennial contender, which is where we want to be.

My bar is a little lower.  I expect that more often than not, Stanford makes the NCAA tournament without squeaking in and contends for a conference title.  Neither of these has happened during Dawkins' entire tenure.

The dynamics of college basketball have changed, but not to such a degree that this level of mediocrity is acceptable.