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Re: Hooper, he gone - winflop - 01-06-2016
(01-05-2016, 09:00 AM)AthleticsDynasty link Wrote:I must say players leaving after 3 years stinks. I always thought Stanford was special. Players leaving LSU or Alabama after 3 years sort of made sense, they might not be great students and struggled to stay eligible and/or its just easy to go back pay cheap in-state tuition and finish their kinesiology degree. But when it came to Stanford a degree was worth any risk of playing college football for another year
As long as they come back and get their degree I'm good with it. In my day, Garin Veris was drafted by the 49ers before he graduated. He came back for two consecutive spring quarters to finish his degree. Good for him - I hope Hooper does the same.
Re: Hooper, he gone - Stymie - 01-06-2016
(01-05-2016, 09:55 AM)Mick link Wrote:[quote author=AthleticsDynasty link=topic=14293.msg151251#msg151251 date=1452009651]
I must say players leaving after 3 years stinks. I always thought Stanford was special. Players leaving LSU or Alabama after 3 years sort of made sense, they might not be great students and struggled to stay eligible and/or its just easy to go back pay cheap in-state tuition and finish their kinesiology degree. But when it came to Stanford a degree was worth any risk of playing college football for another year
Well, I wonder about that. Ever since I was a little kid, it was drummed into my head how critically important it is to graduate...and by and large, I agree with that assessment. I think for the vast majority of people, a degree (Stanford or not) is far preferable to no degree, and yes of course...a Stanford degree even more so.Â
I started to change my thinking in my mid-30s when I figured out what these 11 people had in common: Henry Ford, Mary Kay Ash, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Rachel Ray, Steven Spielberg, Mark Zuckerberg and John D. Rockefeller...didn't graduate college. And let's throw in Sam Walton, Amancio Ortega, Michele Ferrero, Francois Pinault, Ralph Lauren, Richard Branson, Steve Jobs, Ingvar Kamprad and Oprah Winfrey. Not only did they not graduate from college, they're all billionaires.
My younger son secured entrance at a well-known Ivy. He's very tight with several truly brilliant young tech entrepreneurs who want him to forego his last two years of college and join their company. Their list of advisors is a who's who of tech. Mrs. Mick has reluctantly agreed...I told him he'd be crazy not to do it.
And with athletes...their shelf life is short. I wish them good luck and godspeed. I tell them what I told my son, return and get your degree if at all possible.
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Bingo, +1, etc.!
Re: Hooper, he gone - AthleticsDynasty - 01-06-2016
Florida State's kicker entered the draft. There is something very wrong.
Re: Hooper, he gone - CTcard - 01-06-2016
(01-06-2016, 11:28 AM)AthleticsDynasty link Wrote:Florida State's kicker entered the draft. There is something very wrong.
What's so wrong?
The guy has been in college four years, presumably is graduating, and he's been one of the best college kickers for three years and thinks he can go make some money.
Re: Hooper, he gone - fullmetal - 01-06-2016
Also, his younger brother is enrolling early at FSU. I would think that playing your RSr year of eligibility with a freshman brother could be a really worthwhile experience...but hey, money calls. Or maybe the program is about to tank.
Re: Hooper, he gone - CrazedZooChimp - 01-06-2016
(01-05-2016, 12:29 PM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=AthleticsDynasty link=topic=14293.msg151286#msg151286 date=1452021586]
[quote author=Mick link=topic=14293.msg151260#msg151260 date=1452012907]
[quote author=AthleticsDynasty link=topic=14293.msg151251#msg151251 date=1452009651]
I must say players leaving after 3 years stinks. I always thought Stanford was special. Players leaving LSU or Alabama after 3 years sort of made sense, they might not be great students and struggled to stay eligible and/or its just easy to go back pay cheap in-state tuition and finish their kinesiology degree. But when it came to Stanford a degree was worth any risk of playing college football for another year
Well, I wonder about that. Ever since I was a little kid, it was drummed into my head how critically important it is to graduate...and by and large, I agree with that assessment. I think for the vast majority of people, a degree (Stanford or not) is far preferable to no degree, and yes of course...a Stanford degree even more so.Â
I started to change my thinking in my mid-30s when I figured out what these 11 people had in common: Henry Ford, Mary Kay Ash, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Rachel Ray, Steven Spielberg, Mark Zuckerberg and John D. Rockefeller...didn't graduate college. And let's throw in Sam Walton, Amancio Ortega, Michele Ferrero, Francois Pinault, Ralph Lauren, Richard Branson, Steve Jobs, Ingvar Kamprad and Oprah Winfrey. Not only did they not graduate from college, they're all billionaires.
My younger son secured entrance at a well-known Ivy. He's very tight with several truly brilliant young tech entrepreneurs who want him to forego his last two years of college and join their company. Their list of advisors is a who's who of tech. Mrs. Mick has reluctantly agreed...I told him he'd be crazy not to do it.
And with athletes...their shelf life is short. I wish them good luck and godspeed. I tell them what I told my son, return and get your degree if at all possible.
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My thing is why and when did it become so urgent to jump at that first opportunity?
It wasn't that long ago when guys like Peyton Manning, Orlando Pace and Ricky Williams some of the greatest prospects ever stayed in school. He was the best player in the country this year but I swear Ricky Williams was twice as good as Christian and came back for his senior year. If it were to even be suggested that Christian should play 4 years it would be thought of as idiotic and selfish, "what more does he have to prove at the college level? Running backs take too many hits, he is shortening his career" etc.
How do you go from Peyton Manning playing 4 years to literally having one of the worst QBs in the nation entering the draft(the Penn State QB)?
What caused this massive shift in mindset?
/end rant
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If I had to guess it would be $$$.
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The other incentive might be whatever the emjoi for head trauma is. I'm guessing more guys these days might know that if they decide to risk playing football at all, there's a higher chance these days they'll decide to retire early (sometimes Chris Borland style). Head trauma is so much better understood and diagnosed now that you're more likely to realize how many concussions you've had in the first few years in the league and decide that that's enough. I'm guessing there will be more and more earlier retirements, like the Niners got to experience last offseason. Earlier retirements encourage getting to the NFL earlier to get more years in (or more total earning).