[BostonCard]

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...ce-offense

Hooper, Murphy, and Garnett on offense
nobody on defense (surprised that one of our linebackers didn't get considered)
nobody on special teams (not a surprise)

BC

[BostonCard]

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...ce-offense

Hooper, Murphy, and Garnett on offense
nobody on defense (surprised that one of our linebackers didn't get considered)
nobody on special teams (not a surprise)

BC

[CTcard]

nobody on defense (surprised that one of our linebackers didn't get considered)

How do you know who was considered?


That's just the ESPN all-Pac 12 team, yes (not from the conference itself)?

[CTcard]

nobody on defense (surprised that one of our linebackers didn't get considered)

How do you know who was considered?


That's just the ESPN all-Pac 12 team, yes (not from the conference itself)?

[Hulk01]

There's was little room on that list for linebackers, once the voters went through the obvious, even prohibitive, favorites.  Some mention Scooby Wright as a Voldemort candidate, and Jacks and Craven are serious first team AA candidates.  It looks like a down year in the Pac-12, except at RB and LB.

[Hulk01]

There's was little room on that list for linebackers, once the voters went through the obvious, even prohibitive, favorites.  Some mention Scooby Wright as a Voldemort candidate, and Jacks and Craven are serious first team AA candidates.  It looks like a down year in the Pac-12, except at RB and LB.

[CTcard]

There's was room on that list for  linebackers, once the votes went through the obvious, even prohibitive favorites.  Some mention Scooby Wright as a Voldemort candidate, and Jacks and Craven are serious candidates for first team All American.

Hmmm. I think you mean that there was room on that list for one linebacker after the prohibitive favorites. It appears they named Jared Norris of Utah over Martinez. That seems at least defensible.

Both led their teams in tackles in defenses designed to free them up to make the tackle. Norris had more tackles and more tackles for loss - Martinez has an extra 1/2 sack.

By my memory, neither really jumped off the film in watching their respective teams, though both looked solid. Though in truth I didn't watch Utah as often as I watched Stanford.

Norris.
116 tackles. 8.9 tackles/game. 13 tackles for loss. 4 sacks.
Martinez
102 tackles. 7.8 tackles/game. 7 tackles for loss. 4.5 sacks.
Both were honorable mention all Pac 12 last year.


Personally I think Jacks is a bit over-rated, though I might be overly influenced by his game against us.

[CTcard]

There's was room on that list for  linebackers, once the votes went through the obvious, even prohibitive favorites.  Some mention Scooby Wright as a Voldemort candidate, and Jacks and Craven are serious candidates for first team All American.

Hmmm. I think you mean that there was room on that list for one linebacker after the prohibitive favorites. It appears they named Jared Norris of Utah over Martinez. That seems at least defensible.

Both led their teams in tackles in defenses designed to free them up to make the tackle. Norris had more tackles and more tackles for loss - Martinez has an extra 1/2 sack.

By my memory, neither really jumped off the film in watching their respective teams, though both looked solid. Though in truth I didn't watch Utah as often as I watched Stanford.

Norris.
116 tackles. 8.9 tackles/game. 13 tackles for loss. 4 sacks.
Martinez
102 tackles. 7.8 tackles/game. 7 tackles for loss. 4.5 sacks.
Both were honorable mention all Pac 12 last year.


Personally I think Jacks is a bit over-rated, though I might be overly influenced by his game against us.