(11-13-2020, 04:28 AM)PVTree Wrote: I think Rivers was somewhere between good and great in his prime. I often picked him in fantasy football to be my QB due to accuracy on the long ball. He has such a weird release motion that it continues to surprise me how accurate he is.
He is also a gamer, playing through injuries. You can tell her hates being on the sidelines. I recall a playoff game at New England where he played badly injured (perhaps a broken Bone?), and San Diego almost pulled off the upset.
He may not be top 5 any given season, but he's top 10 many seasons and deserving of Hall of Fame entry.
Top 10 at a position is not HOF worthy imo.
(11-13-2020, 05:35 AM)81alum Wrote: (11-12-2020, 08:03 PM)oregontim Wrote: I'm not nostalgic for those days. I think football is much better now for the increased penalties to minimize injuries. But I also think the increased protection of the quarterback lengthens careers and leads to some of the greats being surpassed by near-greats that lasted longer. Tom Brady and Drew Breeze playing into their 40s could never have happened before this decade, with the changed rules on quarterback hits.
Entirely agree. To this you can add the enormous change in pass interference rules/enforcement. Records from earlier decades cannot be meaningfully compared with records now. Two different games, to a more radical extent than most acknowledge.
Agree completely. It’s been somewhat of an evolution. First big changes were on limiting what DBs could do (no contact after 5 yards) and taking away things like the head slap from d lineman. (Remember Deacon Jones) Then allowing o-lineman to extend their arms. Then the two step rule with QB,s.Then the slide, then the no hits to QB around the legs, then the defenseless receiver rule. Finally targeting.
Watch a game from the early 70s. It’s a different sport. When Miami won the SB in their perfect season Greise threw 7 passes.
The safety changes are necessary and good (although I think they overdo it with the QBs). Few things I’d like to see changed : 1. Let DBs make contact for 10 yards as long as ball not in air to that player. 2. Get rid of the “underthrown pi”. That’s when the ball is well underthrown the receiver tries to come back but the dB is in his way. There should not be a benefit for a lousy pass (although I get that QBs do that on purpose at times. And what is the DB supposed to come? 3. College edition - no blocking downfield when ball is in air - even when pass is behind the LOS.4. College again, move in the hash marks to the pro version.
Then there is the evolution of the pass game. Remember when Al Davis was always looking for a vertical passing game. Well beginning with Sid Gilman to Bill Walsh and then moving forward today with guys like Reid and Shanahan - and the spread offenses in college etc. the passing game is much more horizontal the balls out of the quarterbacks hands almost immediately and the liberated blocking rules gives a further advantage to the offense.