[CTcard]

[quote author=terry link=topic=15706.msg171936#msg171936 date=1474313692]
Getting back to McCaffrey -- Looking at the box score for the U*S*C game, I just noticed that McCaffrey's stats were revised. Apparently, there was a 7-yard gain by McCaffrey that was originally recorded as a reception but was reclassified as a rushing attempt. McCaffrey now is credited with 31 carries for 172 yards and 3 catches for 66 yards. Stanford as a team now is credited with 302 rushing yards against U*S*C.

Regardless, he is still the top rusher and top receiver in the game, for either team!
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I think not quite.

Tyler Petite, the backup U$C TE had 73 yards receiving, which included two long receptions - including the one on 3rd and 18. McCaffrey would have tied him in receiving yards with those 7 yards in the receiving column.

[CTcard]

[quote author=terry link=topic=15706.msg171936#msg171936 date=1474313692]
Getting back to McCaffrey -- Looking at the box score for the U*S*C game, I just noticed that McCaffrey's stats were revised. Apparently, there was a 7-yard gain by McCaffrey that was originally recorded as a reception but was reclassified as a rushing attempt. McCaffrey now is credited with 31 carries for 172 yards and 3 catches for 66 yards. Stanford as a team now is credited with 302 rushing yards against U*S*C.

Regardless, he is still the top rusher and top receiver in the game, for either team!
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I think not quite.

Tyler Petite, the backup U$C TE had 73 yards receiving, which included two long receptions - including the one on 3rd and 18. McCaffrey would have tied him in receiving yards with those 7 yards in the receiving column.

[terry]

[quote author=terry link=topic=15706.msg171936#msg171936 date=1474313692]
Getting back to McCaffrey -- Looking at the box score for the U*S*C game, I just noticed that McCaffrey's stats were revised. Apparently, there was a 7-yard gain by McCaffrey that was originally recorded as a reception but was reclassified as a rushing attempt. McCaffrey now is credited with 31 carries for 172 yards and 3 catches for 66 yards. Stanford as a team now is credited with 302 rushing yards against U*S*C.

Could it be the high snap that bounced forward off Burns' hand and ended up in Christian's? Maybe originally considered a forward pass and later changed to a run.
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I'll bet that's right.

[terry]

[quote author=terry link=topic=15706.msg171936#msg171936 date=1474313692]
Getting back to McCaffrey -- Looking at the box score for the U*S*C game, I just noticed that McCaffrey's stats were revised. Apparently, there was a 7-yard gain by McCaffrey that was originally recorded as a reception but was reclassified as a rushing attempt. McCaffrey now is credited with 31 carries for 172 yards and 3 catches for 66 yards. Stanford as a team now is credited with 302 rushing yards against U*S*C.

Could it be the high snap that bounced forward off Burns' hand and ended up in Christian's? Maybe originally considered a forward pass and later changed to a run.
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I'll bet that's right.

[zedcom]

Excellent observation re: the Harbaugh/Shaw package, DC86.

[zedcom]

Excellent observation re: the Harbaugh/Shaw package, DC86.

[Hank 91]

[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=15706.msg171902#msg171902 date=1474308027]
Shaw IS an excellent manager, which sets him up for long-term success.  He manages his team, his relationship with the AD, and the team's relationship with the media.  He keeps the guys focused on performance and not emotions.  Shaw may not have been able to spark a 1-11 discontented doormat into relevance, but how many programs have had sustained success like he's brought?

Speaking as a retired tech entrepreneur, the Harbaugh/Shaw dynamic is a classic model for sustainable institutional success. Harbaugh has all the qualities of a successful founder (or turnaround artist), able to energize and evangelize while rapidly implementing fundamental cultural change. Shaw has all the qualities of a successful CEO, able to steadily manage the enterprise while continuing to build on the foundation in place and reach new heights.

I don't think Shaw could have turned around the program with the alacrity that Harbaugh did (meaning that he may have run out of time), and I'm positive that Harbaugh would have been unable to optimally manage the program once it reached maturity.

I also think Shaw gets shortchanged in terms of credit for his time as "COO" under Harbaugh. When you have a leader as mercurial and outsized as Harbaugh you need a partner to manage all of the inevitable conflicts that arise with players, faculty and administration, and it's clear that Shaw was very helpful when that function was needed.

Fitting and fortunate for us that the Harbaugh/Shaw package both turned around the program and has built a sustainable model for the long term as well.
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I've always thought this, and I even once asked him if his role was roughly equivalent to that of a CEO, and he agreed with the analogy.

[Hank 91]

[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=15706.msg171902#msg171902 date=1474308027]
Shaw IS an excellent manager, which sets him up for long-term success.  He manages his team, his relationship with the AD, and the team's relationship with the media.  He keeps the guys focused on performance and not emotions.  Shaw may not have been able to spark a 1-11 discontented doormat into relevance, but how many programs have had sustained success like he's brought?

Speaking as a retired tech entrepreneur, the Harbaugh/Shaw dynamic is a classic model for sustainable institutional success. Harbaugh has all the qualities of a successful founder (or turnaround artist), able to energize and evangelize while rapidly implementing fundamental cultural change. Shaw has all the qualities of a successful CEO, able to steadily manage the enterprise while continuing to build on the foundation in place and reach new heights.

I don't think Shaw could have turned around the program with the alacrity that Harbaugh did (meaning that he may have run out of time), and I'm positive that Harbaugh would have been unable to optimally manage the program once it reached maturity.

I also think Shaw gets shortchanged in terms of credit for his time as "COO" under Harbaugh. When you have a leader as mercurial and outsized as Harbaugh you need a partner to manage all of the inevitable conflicts that arise with players, faculty and administration, and it's clear that Shaw was very helpful when that function was needed.

Fitting and fortunate for us that the Harbaugh/Shaw package both turned around the program and has built a sustainable model for the long term as well.
[/quote]

I've always thought this, and I even once asked him if his role was roughly equivalent to that of a CEO, and he agreed with the analogy.

[CornFed]

I think that Bill Walsh approached his responsibilities in this manner.  His post-retirement speaking engagements were focused on business management principles more than relating football anecdotes.

[CornFed]

I think that Bill Walsh approached his responsibilities in this manner.  His post-retirement speaking engagements were focused on business management principles more than relating football anecdotes.

[CompSci87]

Walsh had an incredibly detailed plan for every aspect of running a football team. Google for stories about his book.

However I realize that doesn't necessarily imply he was a micromanager. He may have given the staff a lot of thoughts but then trusted them to handle the details themselves.

[CompSci87]

Walsh had an incredibly detailed plan for every aspect of running a football team. Google for stories about his book.

However I realize that doesn't necessarily imply he was a micromanager. He may have given the staff a lot of thoughts but then trusted them to handle the details themselves.

[fullmetal]

I've always thought of him as a detailed manager but not a micromanager.

[fullmetal]

I've always thought of him as a detailed manager but not a micromanager.

[HisKneeWasDown]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=15706.msg171842#msg171842 date=1474260268]
I have a father-in-law who is a big UW fan.  He still says that Shaw is not that good and is riding on the coat tails of Harbaugh.

As far as I am concerned Shaw can keep riding those coat tails for the next 30 years.
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If anything one could argue Harbaugh rode Shaw's coattails.

[HisKneeWasDown]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=15706.msg171842#msg171842 date=1474260268]
I have a father-in-law who is a big UW fan.  He still says that Shaw is not that good and is riding on the coat tails of Harbaugh.

As far as I am concerned Shaw can keep riding those coat tails for the next 30 years.
[/quote]

If anything one could argue Harbaugh rode Shaw's coattails.