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My biggest point is that I want Shaw to stay here for 20 years... as long as he puts away the headset and lets someone else run the offense, during the games and in practice.  I am very grateful when Harbaugh quietly let much of defensive staff go after 2009 and brought in Vic Fangio, Derek Mason, and Randy Hart. 

[quote author=Big Brother link=topic=11121.msg105308#msg105308 date=1416147274] I didn’t catch the Duck game, the first two losses were too disheartening.

I get what you are trying to say.  I think your last sentence undercuts the main point you are trying to convey though.  You acknowledge that the product on the field was bad enough that you weren't going to bother watching us (potentially) fight for the Pac 12 North title against the Ducks.
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Yeah, that wasn't well thought out.  I just hate watching the same mistakes being repeated yearly, even when we win. 

Don't disagree much with what you have to say, but my count, we have been thoroughly outplayed by ND (despite the close score), ASU and Oregon.

I don't disagree with Shinsengumi's comment.

I'm sorry but this is just flat-out crazy. Yes, in 2011 Shaw inherited a fantastic scenario, but that graduating classes gutted us. We lost the most talent Stanford has probably ever lost in a single class, and then we improved the next year. A lot of that improvement was getting really lucky in 1-score games, but it still happened. A big part of the reason we're 5-5 right now instead of 7-3 is bad luck in one-score games, so if we're going to blame Shaw for this year then you have to give him crazy credit for 2012.

I agree with much of what Stupac2 says, after the ND something magical happened that season.  Some of the stuff that occurred up to and during the ND game gave me pause. 

[Hey]

My biggest point is that I want Shaw to stay here for 20 years... as long as he puts away the headset and lets someone else run the offense, during the games and in practice.  I am very grateful when Harbaugh quietly let much of defensive staff go after 2009 and brought in Vic Fangio, Derek Mason, and Randy Hart. 

[quote author=Big Brother link=topic=11121.msg105308#msg105308 date=1416147274] I didn’t catch the Duck game, the first two losses were too disheartening.

I get what you are trying to say.  I think your last sentence undercuts the main point you are trying to convey though.  You acknowledge that the product on the field was bad enough that you weren't going to bother watching us (potentially) fight for the Pac 12 North title against the Ducks.
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Yeah, that wasn't well thought out.  I just hate watching the same mistakes being repeated yearly, even when we win. 

Don't disagree much with what you have to say, but my count, we have been thoroughly outplayed by ND (despite the close score), ASU and Oregon.

I don't disagree with Shinsengumi's comment.

I'm sorry but this is just flat-out crazy. Yes, in 2011 Shaw inherited a fantastic scenario, but that graduating classes gutted us. We lost the most talent Stanford has probably ever lost in a single class, and then we improved the next year. A lot of that improvement was getting really lucky in 1-score games, but it still happened. A big part of the reason we're 5-5 right now instead of 7-3 is bad luck in one-score games, so if we're going to blame Shaw for this year then you have to give him crazy credit for 2012.

I agree with much of what Stupac2 says, after the ND something magical happened that season.  Some of the stuff that occurred up to and during the ND game gave me pause.