[JohnR34231]

[quote author=Big Brother link=topic=11121.msg105308#msg105308 date=1416147274]• Shaw inherited a fantastic scenario and could have phoned it in and still been to three BCS games.  Harbaugh probably would have won those other BCS games as well.

I'm sorry but this is just flat-out crazy. Yes, in 2011 Shaw inherited a fantastic scenario, but that graduating classes gutted us. We lost the most talent Stanford has probably ever lost in a single class, and then we improved the next year. A lot of that improvement was getting really lucky in 1-score games, but it still happened. A big part of the reason we're 5-5 right now instead of 7-3 is bad luck in one-score games, so if we're going to blame Shaw for this year then you have to give him crazy credit for 2012.
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Agree, and it's actually 8-2 rather than 7-3. The U$C, ND, and Utah games all came down to us not making the plays we had to in crunch time, both on offense and on defense. We used to be able to do it. Now our opponents are.

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=Big Brother link=topic=11121.msg105308#msg105308 date=1416147274]• Shaw inherited a fantastic scenario and could have phoned it in and still been to three BCS games.  Harbaugh probably would have won those other BCS games as well.

I'm sorry but this is just flat-out crazy. Yes, in 2011 Shaw inherited a fantastic scenario, but that graduating classes gutted us. We lost the most talent Stanford has probably ever lost in a single class, and then we improved the next year. A lot of that improvement was getting really lucky in 1-score games, but it still happened. A big part of the reason we're 5-5 right now instead of 7-3 is bad luck in one-score games, so if we're going to blame Shaw for this year then you have to give him crazy credit for 2012.
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Agree, and it's actually 8-2 rather than 7-3. The U$C, ND, and Utah games all came down to us not making the plays we had to in crunch time, both on offense and on defense. We used to be able to do it. Now our opponents are.