[washingtonismoney]

Wait, are you really saying that you look at the 2012 Stanford football roster and think "man, this is the most talented team we've ever had, 10-2 with a conference championship and #6 final ranking means the coaches were mediocre and we just played to our talent level."?  The year after we lost guys like Luck, DeCastro, and Martin?  I'm pretty sure the general belief even among fans was that we were going to slide back to 8-4 or so.  You can't seriously think that result was mediocre, can you?  Do you not remember all of the talent that was lost after 2011?

Offensively, the talent was mediocre and the result was the same.

Defense and special teams carried the team. Overall, of course, Shaw has exceeded Vegas expectations every year at the helm. With an 8.5 o/u this year, he'll probably come under. So a pretty good record, I'd say.

Probably could've made things more obvious, but since this thread's a discussion of the offense...

[washingtonismoney]

Wait, are you really saying that you look at the 2012 Stanford football roster and think "man, this is the most talented team we've ever had, 10-2 with a conference championship and #6 final ranking means the coaches were mediocre and we just played to our talent level."?  The year after we lost guys like Luck, DeCastro, and Martin?  I'm pretty sure the general belief even among fans was that we were going to slide back to 8-4 or so.  You can't seriously think that result was mediocre, can you?  Do you not remember all of the talent that was lost after 2011?

Offensively, the talent was mediocre and the result was the same.

Defense and special teams carried the team. Overall, of course, Shaw has exceeded Vegas expectations every year at the helm. With an 8.5 o/u this year, he'll probably come under. So a pretty good record, I'd say.

Probably could've made things more obvious, but since this thread's a discussion of the offense...