[81alum]

Monty the Traitor and Trent Johnson won at Stanford without recruiting problematic players. So did Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw. This is not an either/or situation; we don't have to accept mediocre results in order not to have criminals and jerks on the court.

I agree.  What I'm saying is that knowing that there is so much unethical, undisciplined, prima-donnaish behavior throughout MBB in general diminishes my enjoyment of the game, even if we do get it right here at Stanford. 

That said, I did used to be a fan in the Monty days, so maybe I'm just depressed and will cheer up when we start contending again.

[81alum]

Monty the Traitor and Trent Johnson won at Stanford without recruiting problematic players. So did Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw. This is not an either/or situation; we don't have to accept mediocre results in order not to have criminals and jerks on the court.

I agree.  What I'm saying is that knowing that there is so much unethical, undisciplined, prima-donnaish behavior throughout MBB in general diminishes my enjoyment of the game, even if we do get it right here at Stanford. 

That said, I did used to be a fan in the Monty days, so maybe I'm just depressed and will cheer up when we start contending again.