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I don't think Americans broadly need convincing. Unfortunately we live in a two party system and the leadership of one party is captured by an anti-Ukraine faction, preventing Ukraine aid that most Americans support.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/...nd-taiwan/

Two years on from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, 74% of Americans view the war there as important to U.S. national interests – with 43% describing it as very important.

Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are more likely than Republicans and Republican leaners to see the Russia-Ukraine war as important to U.S. national interests (81% vs. 69%).

If tomorrow Trump said we should fund Ukraine, things would change. That will never happen sadly. A White House address from Biden will not move Johnson or the Republican base that is the stumbling block for Ukraine aid, more likely to make them dig in their heels unfortunately IMHO.

You could be correct. If you are and the House isn't going to pass the aid no matter what, Ukraine is screwed and that is it. However, if the majority of Americans actually believe the aid should pass, some of the highly political animals (particularly those from purple districts) that inhabit the congress may decide that voting for it is the lesser of two evils. It is one thing for the public to be in favor of something. It is another thing for the public to be vocal about it and make it an "issue". The latter is IMO not in evidence. It needs to be. We don't need all the votes from the "other" party. We just need a few more. I believe that not nearly enough public stress has been placed upon the downside of failure in Ukraine. IMO it will make a difference if this is done.

You may be correct that doing so and making a "big deal" out of it won't matter. However, the current situation leads to disaster. Trying to change that is IMO necessary. Not trying almost ensures the disaster will ensue.

[Goose]

I don't think Americans broadly need convincing. Unfortunately we live in a two party system and the leadership of one party is captured by an anti-Ukraine faction, preventing Ukraine aid that most Americans support.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/...nd-taiwan/

Two years on from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, 74% of Americans view the war there as important to U.S. national interests – with 43% describing it as very important.

Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are more likely than Republicans and Republican leaners to see the Russia-Ukraine war as important to U.S. national interests (81% vs. 69%).

If tomorrow Trump said we should fund Ukraine, things would change. That will never happen sadly. A White House address from Biden will not move Johnson or the Republican base that is the stumbling block for Ukraine aid, more likely to make them dig in their heels unfortunately IMHO.

You could be correct. If you are and the House isn't going to pass the aid no matter what, Ukraine is screwed and that is it. However, if the majority of Americans actually believe the aid should pass, some of the highly political animals (particularly those from purple districts) that inhabit the congress may decide that voting for it is the lesser of two evils. It is one thing for the public to be in favor of something. It is another thing for the public to be vocal about it and make it an "issue". The latter is IMO not in evidence. It needs to be. We don't need all the votes from the "other" party. We just need a few more. I believe that not nearly enough public stress has been placed upon the downside of failure in Ukraine. IMO it will make a difference if this is done.

You may be correct that doing so and making a "big deal" out of it won't matter. However, the current situation leads to disaster. Trying to change that is IMO necessary. Not trying almost ensures the disaster will ensue.