[Snorlax94]

Stanford simply has to be more flexible. It can't:

- Refuse JC transfers
- Limit itself to a few undergrad transfers (even Cal has like 27 transfers)*
- Require the highest admissions standards of everyone with whom it competes
- Require Grad School admission to stay for a 5th year and push guys to graduate in 4 years
- Look down on or not fully embrace NIL collectives, and paying players

A football-first school can't do those things.  Stanford should never become a football-first school.

Has there been any (good, non-self selecting) survey of football importance to the Stanford's 16,000+ students?

I agree with MT’s sentiment but is the list even true?

I had a JC transfer in my frosh dorm.

The number of transfers is increasing, so they are clearly open to it.

Are students pushed out after 4 undergraduate years? Couldn’t they just declare as double majors and get another undergraduate degree?

I don’t know that Stanford “looks down” on NIL, though, I agree there has been a lack of vision and execution, and this is harming the athletic programs. One reason so many great tech companies come out of Stanford grads is that since at least the time of Frederick Terman encouraging Hewlett and Packard to start a company, Stanford has created an environment where students are encouraged to and can take their work knowledge and even projects (say, in search engines) and turn them into business ventures. I believe Stanford is the right place for student athletes, but we need a Frederick Terman of NIL.

[Snorlax94]

Stanford simply has to be more flexible. It can't:

- Refuse JC transfers
- Limit itself to a few undergrad transfers (even Cal has like 27 transfers)*
- Require the highest admissions standards of everyone with whom it competes
- Require Grad School admission to stay for a 5th year and push guys to graduate in 4 years
- Look down on or not fully embrace NIL collectives, and paying players

A football-first school can't do those things.  Stanford should never become a football-first school.

Has there been any (good, non-self selecting) survey of football importance to the Stanford's 16,000+ students?

I agree with MT’s sentiment but is the list even true?

I had a JC transfer in my frosh dorm.

The number of transfers is increasing, so they are clearly open to it.

Are students pushed out after 4 undergraduate years? Couldn’t they just declare as double majors and get another undergraduate degree?

I don’t know that Stanford “looks down” on NIL, though, I agree there has been a lack of vision and execution, and this is harming the athletic programs. One reason so many great tech companies come out of Stanford grads is that since at least the time of Frederick Terman encouraging Hewlett and Packard to start a company, Stanford has created an environment where students are encouraged to and can take their work knowledge and even projects (say, in search engines) and turn them into business ventures. I believe Stanford is the right place for student athletes, but we need a Frederick Terman of NIL.