(12-12-2022, 06:15 PM)M T Wrote: My question is what missiles were fired from where. The closest Ukrainian-held territory is about 85km to the NNW on the north shore of the Dnipro. The HIMARS are range-limited to less than 50 miles (80.5 km). I saw another report suggesting they were Turkish TRLG-230 missiles, but their maximum range is 70 km.
If the Ukrainians had crossed the Dnipro to fire these missiles (or fired them from a boat), this seems like a very risky move with a precious resource, as they couldn't get far from where they were fired.
Something doesn't add up.
I agree with you that Ukraine wouldn't have risked HIMARS in some kind of a hit and run raid behind the lines. I had thought Ukraine was actually closer to Melitopol but I doubt the HIMARS would be right on the front lines. Maybe 40 Km over Russian territory, but not more. Could be more Ukrainian deception to worry the Russians. If they are really that close to Melitopol, Russia is in trouble. If not, who knows.
Quote:I would have thought the M-18 is the major highway for supplies to get to Crimea. It stays about 120 km from the north/west side of the Dnipro.
It is, but to get the supplies from Russia to the M-18 at Melitopol you must use the M-14. That is one reason the siege of Mariupol was such a big deal. The guys in the steel plant had the M-14 covered by fire, and until they were gone Russia couldn't use the rest of their "land bridge". Obviously taking Melitopol cuts both routes, but cutting the M-14 in the direction of Russia (say at Berdyans'k) is almost as good. Freeing a major city is however a goal all on it's own.