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I see the suckage that is the men's basketball team continues unabated from the disaster that was the game against Wisconsin.  We are less than 10 minutes in, and SDSU has a 20-9 lead.

BC

I get the feeling you're more willing to cut the football team some slack than you are the men's basketball team. Or do you think that "suckage" applies at least as much to Shaw's stalwarts as it does to Haase's hoopsters?

At this point the suckage he is similar, with very similar patterns across the two sports.  But at least Shaw has some historical accomplishments to fall back on, with success within the last five years (we won the pac-12 north in 2017 and went to a bowl game in 2018).  In his entire 6+ year tenure, Haase has *never* been to an NCAA tournament.

As those memories of football glory fade, they have less and less relevance to today. But if I had to pick one of the two coaches to keep, I’d pick the one who has demonstrated success at Stanford over the one who hasn’t.

BC

As you correctly point out, Shaw has his previous years to fall back on and Haase doesn't. But the suckage isn't anywhere near the same.

If Haase were doing as poorly as Shaw, MBB would be winning <10 games per season not 15 and he'd all but certainly already be gone. If Shaw were doing as mediocre as Haase, there likely wouldn't be any questions about his job as football would be somewhere between 5-7 and 7-5.

[winflop]

I see the suckage that is the men's basketball team continues unabated from the disaster that was the game against Wisconsin.  We are less than 10 minutes in, and SDSU has a 20-9 lead.

BC

I get the feeling you're more willing to cut the football team some slack than you are the men's basketball team. Or do you think that "suckage" applies at least as much to Shaw's stalwarts as it does to Haase's hoopsters?

At this point the suckage he is similar, with very similar patterns across the two sports.  But at least Shaw has some historical accomplishments to fall back on, with success within the last five years (we won the pac-12 north in 2017 and went to a bowl game in 2018).  In his entire 6+ year tenure, Haase has *never* been to an NCAA tournament.

As those memories of football glory fade, they have less and less relevance to today. But if I had to pick one of the two coaches to keep, I’d pick the one who has demonstrated success at Stanford over the one who hasn’t.

BC

As you correctly point out, Shaw has his previous years to fall back on and Haase doesn't. But the suckage isn't anywhere near the same.

If Haase were doing as poorly as Shaw, MBB would be winning <10 games per season not 15 and he'd all but certainly already be gone. If Shaw were doing as mediocre as Haase, there likely wouldn't be any questions about his job as football would be somewhere between 5-7 and 7-5.