[82lsju]

Your friend has swallowed right wing propaganda planted by Russia and probably not just on the topic of Ukraine and Russia.  It is laughable - like roll on the floor style - that "all the way back to" stops with Victoria Nuland.  ANY credible destination for where "all the way back to" is in history, must include past efforts by Russia to control Ukraine.  They've been at odds with each other since the 1800s, maybe even before that.

Ukraine won its independence from Russia in 1991 after the Soviet Union dissolution. Putin and his advisors are motivated to put the former Soviet Union back together, and Ukraine is a significant territory to get back into the Russian fold. Anyone claiming Ukraine or the U.S. is at fault for the war is just a Russian tool.  Someone can make an argument they are in favor of Russia killing thousands of people and wrecking Ukraine to seize control of it, but don't buy this nonsense Russia is just defending itself or whatever other B.S. they spin. Victoria Nuland - LOL!!!

Thanks. To be clear, this is not a friend of mine. And they are literally from Russia, I believe. So yes, they swallowed Russian propaganda.

short summary of Russia/Ukraine relationships over time

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/histo...vides-them

[82lsju]

Your friend has swallowed right wing propaganda planted by Russia and probably not just on the topic of Ukraine and Russia.  It is laughable - like roll on the floor style - that "all the way back to" stops with Victoria Nuland.  ANY credible destination for where "all the way back to" is in history, must include past efforts by Russia to control Ukraine.  They've been at odds with each other since the 1800s, maybe even before that.

Ukraine won its independence from Russia in 1991 after the Soviet Union dissolution. Putin and his advisors are motivated to put the former Soviet Union back together, and Ukraine is a significant territory to get back into the Russian fold. Anyone claiming Ukraine or the U.S. is at fault for the war is just a Russian tool.  Someone can make an argument they are in favor of Russia killing thousands of people and wrecking Ukraine to seize control of it, but don't buy this nonsense Russia is just defending itself or whatever other B.S. they spin. Victoria Nuland - LOL!!!

Thanks. To be clear, this is not a friend of mine. And they are literally from Russia, I believe. So yes, they swallowed Russian propaganda.

short summary of Russia/Ukraine relationships over time

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/histo...vides-them