[Goose]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russi...59894.html



Interesting play by Russia. If Germany is given the same treatment, what do they do? Do they pay in Rubles? 

AMAZING. I had exactly that clip in mind. Holding yourself hostage. Putin may have decided to do that. Probably won't be as funny though.

Oh Lordy Lord, he's desperate. . ..

Maybe. Sadly, it might work. I have no confidence in the current German government to stand up if called upon. Hope I am wrong.

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https://www.defensenews.com/global/europ...e-defense/

My first reaction was YGTBFKM. This system is an old system using an old radar firing bullets at the target. It is similar to the Soviet ZSU-23 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4). The joke became that the manufacturer of the Zoo 23 should just build the system with the Shrike missile already embedded in the reflector so it could just explode when the radar was turned on. Save everybody time and trouble. They are missile magnets. Then, I had to remember this is to be used against Russia, who is not into radar homing missiles as much as the US was/is. So these units may actually survive in the Ukraine. However, they cover essentially the same altitude-range profile as a Stinger missile does. It's replacement in German service is a similar vehicle that launches Stinger missiles.

Given that Ukraine already has Stinger missiles and given that absorbing a new tracked vehicle into it's army takes precious resources, IMHO send this to Ukraine is a SINGULARLY BAD IDEA. The only redeeming virtue is that these weapons make a very effective (if contrary to treaty) anti-infantry weapon (as does the ZSU-23). Maybe that is the real purpose. Seriously, if Germany wants to send something useful, they can and should do better.

[Goose]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russi...59894.html



Interesting play by Russia. If Germany is given the same treatment, what do they do? Do they pay in Rubles? 

AMAZING. I had exactly that clip in mind. Holding yourself hostage. Putin may have decided to do that. Probably won't be as funny though.

Oh Lordy Lord, he's desperate. . ..

Maybe. Sadly, it might work. I have no confidence in the current German government to stand up if called upon. Hope I am wrong.

---

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europ...e-defense/

My first reaction was YGTBFKM. This system is an old system using an old radar firing bullets at the target. It is similar to the Soviet ZSU-23 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4). The joke became that the manufacturer of the Zoo 23 should just build the system with the Shrike missile already embedded in the reflector so it could just explode when the radar was turned on. Save everybody time and trouble. They are missile magnets. Then, I had to remember this is to be used against Russia, who is not into radar homing missiles as much as the US was/is. So these units may actually survive in the Ukraine. However, they cover essentially the same altitude-range profile as a Stinger missile does. It's replacement in German service is a similar vehicle that launches Stinger missiles.

Given that Ukraine already has Stinger missiles and given that absorbing a new tracked vehicle into it's army takes precious resources, IMHO send this to Ukraine is a SINGULARLY BAD IDEA. The only redeeming virtue is that these weapons make a very effective (if contrary to treaty) anti-infantry weapon (as does the ZSU-23). Maybe that is the real purpose. Seriously, if Germany wants to send something useful, they can and should do better.