(04-04-2022, 03:40 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: There has been looting and murdering of civilians in pretty much every area occupied by Russian troops, comprising many different units. I presume there are some Russian soldiers who aren't looting, murdering war criminals but I don't think my phrasing is wrong and I don't really have much sympathy for any Russian soldier on Ukrainian land at this point. Defect, surrender, run away. They know what they're a part of by now.
And pretty weak to say "every invading army loots". Not the defense that would stand up in the Hague, that's for sure.
Why do you think the Germans were praying the Allies would reach Berlin first…..My reply was done at same time as Gail’s. Gail’s is better…..
(04-04-2022, 10:36 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: If you read this thread, it sets up an us (western democracies) vs. them (Russia and whatever fascist allies it can stitch together) reality that cannot be avoided. This is how it always goes. We will either fight for what we believe in and depose Hitler, err I mean Putin, or be cowed and ultimately walked over by authoritarians. Biden's speech in Poland basically painted this picture.
My guess is the western democracies' intel services know what is coming, but also know we can't get in the war against Russia until a certain point that we have not reached yet. The parallels now to WW2 are stupid the same. In 1939-40, we watched Nazis raze and take over Europe, enabling mass genocide. Only when Japan hit us at Pearl Harbor did we wake up and realize the fascists would have to be defeated the world over. At least now China hasn't joined with Russia, but I don't think it's gonna take a surprise attack by someone on the U.S. to get us involved in Ukraine and ultimately against Russia, because that's where this is leading. We'd all be better off to start massive deployments of U.S. forces to Europe. That's just how our world goes. Time for round three. Let's get it on and over with, shall we?
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I’ll remind you of Einstein’s comment: I don’t know what weapons WWIII will be fought with. But WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
This isn’t 1939. 6000 nukes make things a teeny bit different.
