[Goose]

[ agree. It's striking how less physical the team is. I also sense a less intense desire to win, or perhaps an increasing acceptance of losing. There's no outward fire on this team and no one who strikes me as a leader, especially on defense.

IMHO you are exactly correct. I don't get the feeling that anybody on the OL wants to push people around. We hear on this board a lot of wailing about how "Recruiting has cratered". There are 6 guys on the OL that are every bit as highly ranked recruits as some of the previous Stanford lines that DID push people around. I think there is no question that Stanford has lost the edge there. The discussion of the effect Toby Gerhart had on the OL play was very interesting. We need to get that edge back.

[Goose]

[ agree. It's striking how less physical the team is. I also sense a less intense desire to win, or perhaps an increasing acceptance of losing. There's no outward fire on this team and no one who strikes me as a leader, especially on defense.

IMHO you are exactly correct. I don't get the feeling that anybody on the OL wants to push people around. We hear on this board a lot of wailing about how "Recruiting has cratered". There are 6 guys on the OL that are every bit as highly ranked recruits as some of the previous Stanford lines that DID push people around. I think there is no question that Stanford has lost the edge there. The discussion of the effect Toby Gerhart had on the OL play was very interesting. We need to get that edge back.