(06-19-2021, 12:04 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Posey might want to stay to improve his chances of entering the Hall of Fame.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_C.shtml
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/27/h...emembered/
Quote:Posey has one of the most impressive r um of any catcher in the 21st century, starting for three title-winning clubs, securing a MVP Award, Rookie of the Year honors, six All-Star nods, four Silver Sluggers, a batting title and a Gold Glove. There are few honors Posey hasn't received as a player, but there are many voters who may object to his enshrinement due to the lack of sustained offensive production through his career.
Entering the 2021 season, Posey has 140 career home runs and 673 career RBIs, which are far fewer than the 932 RBIs nine-time Gold Glove Award winner Yadier Molina racked up in 17 seasons with the Cardinals.
Depending on how much longer Posey plays, it's possible a lack of longevity and a downward offensive trajectory at the end of his career could hurt his chances. It's also possible a player Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi and manager Gabe Kapler have referred to as a "future Hall of Famer" bounces back in a significant way, returning to form as an All-Star caliber catcher who can sway more voters with a late career renaissance.
The allure of Cooperstown might have him coming back.
BC
I don’t think there is any doubt that Posey wants to come back. He’s already done enough to make the HOF. Numbers , awards aside their are other factors such as being the face of a franchise (and best hitter as a catcher) for a three time champion and being the best at his position for a decade.
Molina is the other HOF catcher from this era. But please give me a break on the RBI comparison. Molina is not the hitter Posey is. He’s played a lot longer. And he’s been on significantly better hitting teams.
Molina: .281/.332/.405/.737. 167 HRs
Posey: .303/.371/.461/.832. 152 HRs
As for RBI’s, a better comparison statistic is hitting with RISP. Fairly close:
Posey. .310/407/477/883
Molina. 302/365/413/778
And if you want to go by “WAR” (I don’t). Posey 43.6. Molina. 41.6
Both are off the charts when it comes to intangibles. But I suspect that won’t matter. It should, but it won’t. HOF voters only look at negatives when it comes to intangibles. Like steroids.
Hopefully the HOF vote doesn’t simply become a quasi computerized analytical exercise based on “WAR”. If I was a voter one big factor would be how players stack up against their contemporaries. Someone that is the all decade performer at his position says something. That should matter. Much more so then someone that pikes up numbers but was never at the top at his position. Rafael Palmiero is a prime example of that. Very good player. But never the guy you’d pick at First Base. His numbers are better, for example, than Will Clark’s, as he played longer. But who would you want up with a runner on third, two outs, bottom nine in a key game. Clark or Palmiero. No contest.
