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Do you think the state has a working data base set up yet to keep track of the massive volumes of residents who will be vaccinated?  Won’t they need all sorts of interfaces with lots of EMRs and provisions for manual tracking?

My guess is probably not.

The CDC's Tiberius system is the software to keep track.  What I haven't heard is whether that has every individual's name/id in it already, or whether the states are responsible for getting the names in there.  My guess is that SSN is being used to distinguish one James Kirk from the next one.   I rather doubt it is tied to the latest census because that wasn't finished and probably isn't cleaned up yet.



Edit: Another article on Tiberius.  OWS indicated they sent IT people to the various jurisdictions (states, mostly) to help with getting everything working.

To keep track of what?

Tiberius integrates the data related to manufacturing, supply chain, allocation, state and territory planning, delivery and administration of both vaccine products and kits containing needles, syringes and other supplies needed to administer the vaccine.



With information from both federal and local sources, Tiberius can provide a zip code-by-zip code view of priority populations, including frontline workers and nursing home residents. 



Tiberius provides planning tools for states to optimize their allocation and distribution plans. Based on priority recommendations, Tiberius provides decision support to leaders around the country, drawing from the data which includes planning information provided by jurisdictions.

Unclear to me that it records anything about individuals at all, at least based on the link above. It doesn't appear to know "James Kirk xxx-xx-xxxx got Moderna on ... Supposedly, there is no identifying data involved. While this may be a useful piece of software, it is unclear what if any relationship it may have to AKidDoc's issues.

Suppose the whole of the US (people, counties, states) said "We're committed to getting shots in arms in 6 months".  For a 2M-population county like SCC, that's roughly 10K shots a day.   SCC is doing 20K tests per day (about half by the County Health Care System itself).  It can be done.  Line 'em up in the fairgrounds.

Yes it can, but we aren't doing it that way. Instead we are worrying about who should get it first without worrying about getting it distributed at all. Recipe for failure IMHO. It would appear the counties have totally underestimated what is going to be required of them. Hopefully CVS and Walgreen's will do better. Equally crazy that Stanford hasn't delivered all their vaccine's yet.



M T, I do have a question for you. When you say "by the County Health Care System itself" do you mean they are actually running the PCR operations themselves or do you mean they are collecting the samples and sending them out for the PCR processing and reading? The answer doesn't change your point, I am just curious about this issue.

[Goose]

Do you think the state has a working data base set up yet to keep track of the massive volumes of residents who will be vaccinated?  Won’t they need all sorts of interfaces with lots of EMRs and provisions for manual tracking?

My guess is probably not.

The CDC's Tiberius system is the software to keep track.  What I haven't heard is whether that has every individual's name/id in it already, or whether the states are responsible for getting the names in there.  My guess is that SSN is being used to distinguish one James Kirk from the next one.   I rather doubt it is tied to the latest census because that wasn't finished and probably isn't cleaned up yet.



Edit: Another article on Tiberius.  OWS indicated they sent IT people to the various jurisdictions (states, mostly) to help with getting everything working.

To keep track of what?

Tiberius integrates the data related to manufacturing, supply chain, allocation, state and territory planning, delivery and administration of both vaccine products and kits containing needles, syringes and other supplies needed to administer the vaccine.



With information from both federal and local sources, Tiberius can provide a zip code-by-zip code view of priority populations, including frontline workers and nursing home residents. 



Tiberius provides planning tools for states to optimize their allocation and distribution plans. Based on priority recommendations, Tiberius provides decision support to leaders around the country, drawing from the data which includes planning information provided by jurisdictions.

Unclear to me that it records anything about individuals at all, at least based on the link above. It doesn't appear to know "James Kirk xxx-xx-xxxx got Moderna on ... Supposedly, there is no identifying data involved. While this may be a useful piece of software, it is unclear what if any relationship it may have to AKidDoc's issues.

Suppose the whole of the US (people, counties, states) said "We're committed to getting shots in arms in 6 months".  For a 2M-population county like SCC, that's roughly 10K shots a day.   SCC is doing 20K tests per day (about half by the County Health Care System itself).  It can be done.  Line 'em up in the fairgrounds.

Yes it can, but we aren't doing it that way. Instead we are worrying about who should get it first without worrying about getting it distributed at all. Recipe for failure IMHO. It would appear the counties have totally underestimated what is going to be required of them. Hopefully CVS and Walgreen's will do better. Equally crazy that Stanford hasn't delivered all their vaccine's yet.



M T, I do have a question for you. When you say "by the County Health Care System itself" do you mean they are actually running the PCR operations themselves or do you mean they are collecting the samples and sending them out for the PCR processing and reading? The answer doesn't change your point, I am just curious about this issue.