12-29-2020, 09:20 PM
(12-29-2020, 08:03 PM)M T Wrote: BostonCard gave a good answer a while back. It may be worth your re-reading it. I remember a longer response but didn't find it right away.
CDC stats are based on "Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1."
As BC reported, the standard US Death Certificate can be found here, with instructions. In the US form Item 32, Part I, there is no term "primary cause of death" as used by North Dakota, only "immediate cause of death" and a sequence of conditions starting with "underlying cause". See also the announcement of that code.
In Item 32, Part II, other "significant conditions contributing to the death" are listed.
As I read it, the CDC would report the death in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019" if either Part I or Part II indicated COVID.
Judging from other non-technical sources, it appears they use the term "primary cause" to apply to the underlying cause in Part I, and "secondary cause(s)" in Part II.
Borrowing from what I recall from BC's posting, if you are diagnosed with COVID, but die immediately as a result of a car accident, COVID would not appear on the death certificate. However, if you survived initially, but die eventually because your COVID pneumonia kept your body from recovering, COVID might be listed in Part II. If you got only a broken leg in the accident and went into the hospital, where you got COVID and died from it, COVID would be listed in Part I.
Edit: Then I found this
"if somebody had a car accident because they fainted and they only fainted because they ran a fever of 105 because they had a horrible pneumonia because of COVID, then actually COVID was an underlying condition that caused their death even though they actually died from crashing the car"
Yes, I remember BC answered it - and I didn't understand it then, and still don't. So it must be my density.
So let me ask it this way: do you think the CDC includes all of North Dakota's 1276 tally in its national tally of Covid deaths?
(Based on about 5 readings of your answer, I believe that if the answer is "yes," it's because ND's non-primary cause of death qualifies for reporting under Part II).
