[Snorlax94]

Again, let me emphasize that everyone needs to see their doctor ASAP if they think they have COVID.  There ARE therapeutic drugs.  Why take a gamble whether you will be one of the unlucky ones that winds up in a hospital, on a ventilator, or dead?

Therapeutic drugs are a response to "My doctor said there’s no point [in getting tested] since I have so the symptoms."

Don't wait to get your test back.  By then, it may be too late.
Better yet, decide NOW what you will do if you get COVID.  When you get sick, you'll be rushed & confused & sick.

I believe there are therapeutic drugs outside of trials, but I'm not 100% sure.

Stanford clinical trials for treatment:
  https://racetoacure.stanford.edu/clinical-trials
Stanford clinical trials related to COVID:
  https://med.stanford.edu/covid19/research.html
All clinical trials related to COVID:
  https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/covid_view

Actually, when the friend in Silicon Valley mentioned Covid on Facebook, I messaged him whether he had contacted his physician about getting monoclonal antibodies. He said he DID, but that his physician said his case was mild and it wasn't appropriate. He is a fit person in his 50s, but he had a persistent fever which is supposed to be correlated with poor outcomes. Anyway, last I saw, he said he was improving.

So maybe the advice about therapeutics would fit for someone in their 70s who is obese, or someone in their 80s, but my sense is that doctors won't give them to middle-aged people.

And the kicker is that the scenario of my cousin in LA, who was absolutely miserable, would probably be reported in the statistics as a mild case that resolved itself at home. 

And even if people do take therapeutics, it may shorten the duration, it may reduce the risk of a severe case, but it won't necessarily mean it's going to be a walk in the park. And if you participate in a clinical trial, you're flipping a coin as to whether you're just getting saline or a sugar pill.

Sure, yes, I think it's good advice for people to get tested as soon as possible, to have a plan in place, and to be aware of therapeutics. But I also think it's dangerous if people think there are these miracle cures out there that will fix everything. Because I have heard cases of middle aged people being denied EUA therapeutics. And even if you get therapeutics, it may risk the chance of death, but it doesn't reduce it to 0. And even if you got therapeutics and have one of those "mild" cases that resolve themselves at home without going in to the ER, it could be absolute misery with long-lasting health detriments. And it's not like my cousin was unaware that she probably should've gone to an ER with a low blood o2. The doctors were telling her NOT to go to the ER in LA probably because when there is no space left in the hospitals, maybe in LA there's no room for people with blood o2 in the mid to high 80s. And I can't imagine a middle aged person who got tested promptly is going to just waltz along and get monoclonal antibodies in LA -- there's not even enough hospital room for severe cases, let alone making space for an EUA prophylactic treatment for a relatively low-risk person with mild symptoms. And the Bay Area is approaching LA-like numbers. Depending on what people did on Christmas, we may already be on our way to an LA-style collapse.  

Again, I was in touch with people who had Covid, and they were in touch with their doctors, and in at least one of those cases, they confirmed they requested EUA therapeutics, but did not get any. I don't discourage anyone from asking -- people should definitely get tested early and should consider inquiring -- I'm just saying people shouldn't expect that they will get some, or that all of those "self-resolving mild cases" are a walk in the park.

[Snorlax94]

Again, let me emphasize that everyone needs to see their doctor ASAP if they think they have COVID.  There ARE therapeutic drugs.  Why take a gamble whether you will be one of the unlucky ones that winds up in a hospital, on a ventilator, or dead?

Therapeutic drugs are a response to "My doctor said there’s no point [in getting tested] since I have so the symptoms."

Don't wait to get your test back.  By then, it may be too late.
Better yet, decide NOW what you will do if you get COVID.  When you get sick, you'll be rushed & confused & sick.

I believe there are therapeutic drugs outside of trials, but I'm not 100% sure.

Stanford clinical trials for treatment:
  https://racetoacure.stanford.edu/clinical-trials
Stanford clinical trials related to COVID:
  https://med.stanford.edu/covid19/research.html
All clinical trials related to COVID:
  https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/covid_view

Actually, when the friend in Silicon Valley mentioned Covid on Facebook, I messaged him whether he had contacted his physician about getting monoclonal antibodies. He said he DID, but that his physician said his case was mild and it wasn't appropriate. He is a fit person in his 50s, but he had a persistent fever which is supposed to be correlated with poor outcomes. Anyway, last I saw, he said he was improving.

So maybe the advice about therapeutics would fit for someone in their 70s who is obese, or someone in their 80s, but my sense is that doctors won't give them to middle-aged people.

And the kicker is that the scenario of my cousin in LA, who was absolutely miserable, would probably be reported in the statistics as a mild case that resolved itself at home. 

And even if people do take therapeutics, it may shorten the duration, it may reduce the risk of a severe case, but it won't necessarily mean it's going to be a walk in the park. And if you participate in a clinical trial, you're flipping a coin as to whether you're just getting saline or a sugar pill.

Sure, yes, I think it's good advice for people to get tested as soon as possible, to have a plan in place, and to be aware of therapeutics. But I also think it's dangerous if people think there are these miracle cures out there that will fix everything. Because I have heard cases of middle aged people being denied EUA therapeutics. And even if you get therapeutics, it may risk the chance of death, but it doesn't reduce it to 0. And even if you got therapeutics and have one of those "mild" cases that resolve themselves at home without going in to the ER, it could be absolute misery with long-lasting health detriments. And it's not like my cousin was unaware that she probably should've gone to an ER with a low blood o2. The doctors were telling her NOT to go to the ER in LA probably because when there is no space left in the hospitals, maybe in LA there's no room for people with blood o2 in the mid to high 80s. And I can't imagine a middle aged person who got tested promptly is going to just waltz along and get monoclonal antibodies in LA -- there's not even enough hospital room for severe cases, let alone making space for an EUA prophylactic treatment for a relatively low-risk person with mild symptoms. And the Bay Area is approaching LA-like numbers. Depending on what people did on Christmas, we may already be on our way to an LA-style collapse.  

Again, I was in touch with people who had Covid, and they were in touch with their doctors, and in at least one of those cases, they confirmed they requested EUA therapeutics, but did not get any. I don't discourage anyone from asking -- people should definitely get tested early and should consider inquiring -- I'm just saying people shouldn't expect that they will get some, or that all of those "self-resolving mild cases" are a walk in the park.