[Phogge]

When I see safties who can't tackle, linemen with no push, corners beaten, the biggest defensive problems are lack of speed and talent. Some of these guys aren't on Toby Norwood level. Other guys who have had rave practice reviews are hurt every year. Thus nothing proven. I think there is talent promise on the offensive line and third down running back ability but no horse since McCaffrey. No Taylor, no Gaffney, no Toby. There is some talent on the outside but the O goes to jump balls when close and none of the tall guys have JJ's ability. The TE recruiting has been poor lately and that's a big loss in the Shaw scheme.

And what we get are post game comments after a loss blaming players for poor execution.

[Phogge]

When I see safties who can't tackle, linemen with no push, corners beaten, the biggest defensive problems are lack of speed and talent. Some of these guys aren't on Toby Norwood level. Other guys who have had rave practice reviews are hurt every year. Thus nothing proven. I think there is talent promise on the offensive line and third down running back ability but no horse since McCaffrey. No Taylor, no Gaffney, no Toby. There is some talent on the outside but the O goes to jump balls when close and none of the tall guys have JJ's ability. The TE recruiting has been poor lately and that's a big loss in the Shaw scheme.

And what we get are post game comments after a loss blaming players for poor execution.