09-29-2020, 11:00 AM
A closer look at Shaw versus Leach:
2011 (pre-Leach): Stanford 44, WSU 14. Pac-12 North: Stanford 8-1, T1st; WSU 2-7, 6th
2012: Stanford 24, WSU 17. Pac-12 North: Stanford 8-1, T1st; WSU 1-8, 6th
2013: Stanford 55, WSU 17. Stanford 7-2, T1st; WSU 4-5, T4th
2014: Stanford 34, WSU 17. Stanford 5-4, 2nd; WSU 2-7, T5th
2015: Stanford 30, WSU 28. Stanford 8-1, 1st; WSU 6-3, 3rd
2016: WSU 42, Stanford 16. WSU 7-2, 2nd; Stanford 6-3, 3rd
2017: WSU 24, Stanford 21. Stanford 7-2, T1st; WSU 6-3, 3rd
2018: WSU 41, Stanford 38. WSU 7-2, T1st; Stanford 6-3, 3rd
2019: WSU 49, Stanford 22. Stanford 3-6, T5th; WSU 3-6, T5th
So over Leach's 8 years at WSU, he was 4-4 versus Stanford. His conference record was 36-36, while Shaw's was 50-22. But this isn't a fair comparison since, during his first few years, Leach had to put out a dumpster fire and bring in players to fit his system.
So to be fair, let's look at the most recent 4 years. Leach was 4-0 versus Stanford. His conference record was 23-13, while Shaw's was 22-14. So Shaw had a "Leach problem," but since the season is more than one game, I don't think Leach's system--including all phases of the game--was/is light years better overall than Shaw.
I don't really have anything against Leach. His offenses are certainly entertaining to watch, even when his team loses, but I cringe at times when I hear Leach speak about non-football topics. I find David Shaw's offense entertaining when Stanford wins, which, fortunately, is more often than not. I'm happy to hear David Shaw talk about non-football topics, and I would hold him up as a role model to my son.
In any case, I really hope KJ continues to succeed this year, and I'd love to watch him play on Sundays next year.
2011 (pre-Leach): Stanford 44, WSU 14. Pac-12 North: Stanford 8-1, T1st; WSU 2-7, 6th
2012: Stanford 24, WSU 17. Pac-12 North: Stanford 8-1, T1st; WSU 1-8, 6th
2013: Stanford 55, WSU 17. Stanford 7-2, T1st; WSU 4-5, T4th
2014: Stanford 34, WSU 17. Stanford 5-4, 2nd; WSU 2-7, T5th
2015: Stanford 30, WSU 28. Stanford 8-1, 1st; WSU 6-3, 3rd
2016: WSU 42, Stanford 16. WSU 7-2, 2nd; Stanford 6-3, 3rd
2017: WSU 24, Stanford 21. Stanford 7-2, T1st; WSU 6-3, 3rd
2018: WSU 41, Stanford 38. WSU 7-2, T1st; Stanford 6-3, 3rd
2019: WSU 49, Stanford 22. Stanford 3-6, T5th; WSU 3-6, T5th
So over Leach's 8 years at WSU, he was 4-4 versus Stanford. His conference record was 36-36, while Shaw's was 50-22. But this isn't a fair comparison since, during his first few years, Leach had to put out a dumpster fire and bring in players to fit his system.
So to be fair, let's look at the most recent 4 years. Leach was 4-0 versus Stanford. His conference record was 23-13, while Shaw's was 22-14. So Shaw had a "Leach problem," but since the season is more than one game, I don't think Leach's system--including all phases of the game--was/is light years better overall than Shaw.
I don't really have anything against Leach. His offenses are certainly entertaining to watch, even when his team loses, but I cringe at times when I hear Leach speak about non-football topics. I find David Shaw's offense entertaining when Stanford wins, which, fortunately, is more often than not. I'm happy to hear David Shaw talk about non-football topics, and I would hold him up as a role model to my son.
In any case, I really hope KJ continues to succeed this year, and I'd love to watch him play on Sundays next year.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
