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How about a thread on saving the Titanic from sinking after it hit the ice berg? Seriously. 

The Giants flat out and simply didn’t have good enough pitching. We all thought going in they also didn’t have good enough hitting and scoring ability, but turns out they did. You lose more baseball games than you win when lacking quality pitching.

It’s almost like Bill Walsh’s famous philosophy that you can scheme offense to score points with lesser athletes, but like you must have quality pitching to win baseball games, you must have great athletes on defense to stop the opponent enough times to consistently win football games.

The Cardinals and Marlins both had long Covid layoffs and plenty of double headers. Both those teams made the playoffs because they both pitched well. The Phillies, Giants, Mets, and Brewers all lacked good enough pitching as well, and the Reds were also better.

Over 162, the Giants would have lost 90+ games.

I don't get why you're so intent on insulating Kapler from at least some blame this season.
And when you finish 1 game out - 1 stinking game from making (expanded) playoffs or sitting home with the other $hitty teams - the obvious blunders can be absolutely crucial.  And Kapler made several that cost the Giants.  The playoffs, it turns out.

Now, it may well be that the Giants pitching is mediocre.  So what?  They still should be competing in the playoffs, even if it is one series against the Dodgers.

And btw, your question about why the Giants would even want to play the Dodgers and get smoked is the ultimate in surrender monkeyism.  (And in a best of 3 series, the best team doesn't always win).

In short, you can believe (a) the Giants have insufficient pitching, (b) the Giants substantially improved hitting (at least some of which should be credited to the staff), and © Kapler's in-game decisions, in a few instances, were horrible and cost the team the playoffs.  They are not mutually exclusive.

As for the Corona-replayed game, I don't think that cost the Giants.  If anything, it gave them a better shot at the W (which the Giants gagged).

[teejers1]

How about a thread on saving the Titanic from sinking after it hit the ice berg? Seriously. 

The Giants flat out and simply didn’t have good enough pitching. We all thought going in they also didn’t have good enough hitting and scoring ability, but turns out they did. You lose more baseball games than you win when lacking quality pitching.

It’s almost like Bill Walsh’s famous philosophy that you can scheme offense to score points with lesser athletes, but like you must have quality pitching to win baseball games, you must have great athletes on defense to stop the opponent enough times to consistently win football games.

The Cardinals and Marlins both had long Covid layoffs and plenty of double headers. Both those teams made the playoffs because they both pitched well. The Phillies, Giants, Mets, and Brewers all lacked good enough pitching as well, and the Reds were also better.

Over 162, the Giants would have lost 90+ games.

I don't get why you're so intent on insulating Kapler from at least some blame this season.
And when you finish 1 game out - 1 stinking game from making (expanded) playoffs or sitting home with the other $hitty teams - the obvious blunders can be absolutely crucial.  And Kapler made several that cost the Giants.  The playoffs, it turns out.

Now, it may well be that the Giants pitching is mediocre.  So what?  They still should be competing in the playoffs, even if it is one series against the Dodgers.

And btw, your question about why the Giants would even want to play the Dodgers and get smoked is the ultimate in surrender monkeyism.  (And in a best of 3 series, the best team doesn't always win).

In short, you can believe (a) the Giants have insufficient pitching, (b) the Giants substantially improved hitting (at least some of which should be credited to the staff), and © Kapler's in-game decisions, in a few instances, were horrible and cost the team the playoffs.  They are not mutually exclusive.

As for the Corona-replayed game, I don't think that cost the Giants.  If anything, it gave them a better shot at the W (which the Giants gagged).