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Campuses are getting crushed.  2,000 separate institutions of higher learning are trying to open

https://www.axios.com/colleges-parties-r...4c089.html

Purdue, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Alabama, Auburn, UNC Chapel Hill, Northeastern, among those having problems.  A Stanford prof thinks it's the fault of the university hierarchies, not the students:

"It’s irresponsible and the outcome is predictable, and blaming the students is just misplaced," says Joshua Salomon, a professor of medicine at Stanford. "A lot of these school reopening plans that bring students back without testing are like turning on a faucet and sternly telling the water not to flow."

What does that mean:  "campuses are getting crushed?"  Same with "having problems."  That there are a lot of positive cases?  Yes.  Predictable?  Yes.  Dangerous/deadly?  Entirely unclear (and my bet is no).  

Someone rhetorically said "you know it's bad when a school has its own dashboard. . . "  I disagree entirely.  I think sharing accurate and complete data is a good thing.  And speaking of that, here is ND's board.  It looks to me like they are trending in the right direction.

https://here.nd.edu/our-approach/dashboard/

And to the extent any of those kids were, you know, sick, I'd bet good money those big numbers from August 17, 18, and 19 are largely (if not entirely) recovered.  

I hope ND guts it out and at the end of the semester looks back and says:  "it was tough, but we managed to get through it.  We had some missteps here and there and the students had to acclimate behavior, but at the end of the day we think we provided a better college experience with kids on campus and no one died or even needed intensive care at local health providers."  No clue if that can be accomplished, but if it can, then I'd consider that impressive (and a good thing).

P.S.  I agree with Farm93 and Snorlax that my use of the word "fixated" was imprudent.  This is a Covid board and the developments around the country are of interest, so my apologies for that.  But I will say that I believe many here are watching developments at universities with almost a hope that things go bad, because the tone of the "observational" posts is condescending (thematically along the lines of "I can't believe these idiots are even trying this").  I will never embrace that outlook.

[teejers1]

Campuses are getting crushed.  2,000 separate institutions of higher learning are trying to open

https://www.axios.com/colleges-parties-r...4c089.html

Purdue, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Alabama, Auburn, UNC Chapel Hill, Northeastern, among those having problems.  A Stanford prof thinks it's the fault of the university hierarchies, not the students:

"It’s irresponsible and the outcome is predictable, and blaming the students is just misplaced," says Joshua Salomon, a professor of medicine at Stanford. "A lot of these school reopening plans that bring students back without testing are like turning on a faucet and sternly telling the water not to flow."

What does that mean:  "campuses are getting crushed?"  Same with "having problems."  That there are a lot of positive cases?  Yes.  Predictable?  Yes.  Dangerous/deadly?  Entirely unclear (and my bet is no).  

Someone rhetorically said "you know it's bad when a school has its own dashboard. . . "  I disagree entirely.  I think sharing accurate and complete data is a good thing.  And speaking of that, here is ND's board.  It looks to me like they are trending in the right direction.

https://here.nd.edu/our-approach/dashboard/

And to the extent any of those kids were, you know, sick, I'd bet good money those big numbers from August 17, 18, and 19 are largely (if not entirely) recovered.  

I hope ND guts it out and at the end of the semester looks back and says:  "it was tough, but we managed to get through it.  We had some missteps here and there and the students had to acclimate behavior, but at the end of the day we think we provided a better college experience with kids on campus and no one died or even needed intensive care at local health providers."  No clue if that can be accomplished, but if it can, then I'd consider that impressive (and a good thing).

P.S.  I agree with Farm93 and Snorlax that my use of the word "fixated" was imprudent.  This is a Covid board and the developments around the country are of interest, so my apologies for that.  But I will say that I believe many here are watching developments at universities with almost a hope that things go bad, because the tone of the "observational" posts is condescending (thematically along the lines of "I can't believe these idiots are even trying this").  I will never embrace that outlook.