[OutsiderFan]

So we can conclude freakout over scenes of crowded beaches has been more about “optics” than actual reason for concern? And even that those people were actually being smart without knowing it?

As for baseball and football, we sit much closer to people in stadiums than we do at the beach, and we sit in the same place for 3 hrs. But even these realities are not nearly as concerning as the packed entrances and concession areas in most large stadiums, and public transportation particularly for MLB and NFL.

The game I went to at Stanford Stadium last year:

-Packed CalTrain from Mtn View to Stanford for 15 mins
-Security entrance queue at Stadium
-Close contact with dozens of people around stadium to stairs
-Not much contact going up stairs or at my upper deck seats during game
-Concessions on top of stadium in open air
-Packed bathrooms
-Leave Stadium early 4th quarter with no close contacts
-Wait in crowded line for maybe 45 mins at platform
-Packed CalTrain from Stanford to Mtn View

So I would say the three most vulnerable environments were:
1. CalTrain
2. Bathrooms at stadium (even porta potty would be spread vector)
3. Entering Stadium (or leaving if game was close at end)

So even if just being outside reduces transmission to acceptable levels, even in a crowded stadium packed to the gills, there are other spread vectors that probably aren’t acceptable to have fans. And in my case, the concessions were outside in open. Would not have been case if I was at the mezzanine level. As you all know, thousands of fans are congregated in the middle concession level under the second deck to take refuge from the heat during day games. This was the case for the Oregon game last year.

[OutsiderFan]

So we can conclude freakout over scenes of crowded beaches has been more about “optics” than actual reason for concern? And even that those people were actually being smart without knowing it?

As for baseball and football, we sit much closer to people in stadiums than we do at the beach, and we sit in the same place for 3 hrs. But even these realities are not nearly as concerning as the packed entrances and concession areas in most large stadiums, and public transportation particularly for MLB and NFL.

The game I went to at Stanford Stadium last year:

-Packed CalTrain from Mtn View to Stanford for 15 mins
-Security entrance queue at Stadium
-Close contact with dozens of people around stadium to stairs
-Not much contact going up stairs or at my upper deck seats during game
-Concessions on top of stadium in open air
-Packed bathrooms
-Leave Stadium early 4th quarter with no close contacts
-Wait in crowded line for maybe 45 mins at platform
-Packed CalTrain from Stanford to Mtn View

So I would say the three most vulnerable environments were:
1. CalTrain
2. Bathrooms at stadium (even porta potty would be spread vector)
3. Entering Stadium (or leaving if game was close at end)

So even if just being outside reduces transmission to acceptable levels, even in a crowded stadium packed to the gills, there are other spread vectors that probably aren’t acceptable to have fans. And in my case, the concessions were outside in open. Would not have been case if I was at the mezzanine level. As you all know, thousands of fans are congregated in the middle concession level under the second deck to take refuge from the heat during day games. This was the case for the Oregon game last year.