[teejers1]

How about just answering Mick's question in your own words?  I've read the whole thread and don't see what your point is in noting that a loosening of SiP will result in a spread of the virus ("resume the bleeding").  I think everybody gets that (or at least I expect it).   So unless you're advocating for a SiP until a vaccine is secured, then what are you suggesting?  It's a legit question: indeed, it's the one really important question everyone is grappling with.

If I said "Do I understand you to say that those players that used PEDs should be banned from the Hall of Fame?" would you feel like I'm trying to push you into a likely argument on a subject you hadn't said anything about?

No, I wasn't discussing how and when Shelter-in-Place should end eventually.  I was talking about that the positive test numbers were getting better.  I was anticipating that a number of short-sighted people will now say "Our numbers are as good as they were before SiP, so we should end it."   That's a view that one might have of an illness that gets cured after a course of antibiotics and your symptoms go away.   When you put a tourniquet on, the problem (a major injury to a limb) isn't resolved, but a deadly consequence (loss of blood) is stopped temporarily, buying you time.  The major injury isn't resolved.  Only by drastic means (a tourniquet) have we gotten the deadly consequences to slow down.  The only evidence we have is that removing those drastic means will lead to a similar situation as before. We have to be cautious about what we do from here.

I don't want to get sucked into an argument that we've hashed out before with strongly held positions on multiple sides, for which no one on this board has any direct influence on the eventual decision.   Such an argument is unlikely to do any good, and is more likely to just inflame negative feelings on all sides.   I'd like to get information from the Cardboard, not all the negatives from being egged into an argument with someone I know has a strong opinion different than mine.

So, no, I am not going to answer a challenge about PEDs in the HoF or how best to balance loss of life & other lifelong injuries versus an earlier return to work.

Super helpful, thanks.  
I suggest a weekly post about "the tourniquet" to remind us all that loosening things will lead to virus spread.  That reminder should remain in effect until a workable vaccine is implemented. Meanwhile, stay safe in the bunker.

[teejers1]

How about just answering Mick's question in your own words?  I've read the whole thread and don't see what your point is in noting that a loosening of SiP will result in a spread of the virus ("resume the bleeding").  I think everybody gets that (or at least I expect it).   So unless you're advocating for a SiP until a vaccine is secured, then what are you suggesting?  It's a legit question: indeed, it's the one really important question everyone is grappling with.

If I said "Do I understand you to say that those players that used PEDs should be banned from the Hall of Fame?" would you feel like I'm trying to push you into a likely argument on a subject you hadn't said anything about?

No, I wasn't discussing how and when Shelter-in-Place should end eventually.  I was talking about that the positive test numbers were getting better.  I was anticipating that a number of short-sighted people will now say "Our numbers are as good as they were before SiP, so we should end it."   That's a view that one might have of an illness that gets cured after a course of antibiotics and your symptoms go away.   When you put a tourniquet on, the problem (a major injury to a limb) isn't resolved, but a deadly consequence (loss of blood) is stopped temporarily, buying you time.  The major injury isn't resolved.  Only by drastic means (a tourniquet) have we gotten the deadly consequences to slow down.  The only evidence we have is that removing those drastic means will lead to a similar situation as before. We have to be cautious about what we do from here.

I don't want to get sucked into an argument that we've hashed out before with strongly held positions on multiple sides, for which no one on this board has any direct influence on the eventual decision.   Such an argument is unlikely to do any good, and is more likely to just inflame negative feelings on all sides.   I'd like to get information from the Cardboard, not all the negatives from being egged into an argument with someone I know has a strong opinion different than mine.

So, no, I am not going to answer a challenge about PEDs in the HoF or how best to balance loss of life & other lifelong injuries versus an earlier return to work.

Super helpful, thanks.  
I suggest a weekly post about "the tourniquet" to remind us all that loosening things will lead to virus spread.  That reminder should remain in effect until a workable vaccine is implemented. Meanwhile, stay safe in the bunker.