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Wilcox is a good coach. Has done a great job bringing a program from the abyss to mediocrity.  Let’s see if he can take the next step. 

As for Shaw, let’s see what 2020 brings. ‘19 was his first bad season.  If 2020 is another bad year, there will be changes.

Would have to disagree that, with wins over Stanford, UCLA, Washington and an SEC team on the road, 8-5 is mediocrity. Imagine if Garbers hadn't been hurt. Amazing after Garbers 3 interception performance in the Cheez-it Bowl he became such a good QB. Coaching?

And as for 2020, if it is another bad year, I really doubt there will be changes.

QBs mature. Costello made a big jump. Had a terrific year in ‘19. Got hurt. But we all know Shaw is the worst coach in America. So certainly any improvement of any player is happenstance.

Speaking for myself, I'm not quite ready yet to write Shaw off as a lousy coach and write on Wilcox as a great one. We'll see how 2020 goes.

Does one bad year overshadow prior success at Stanford regarding "coaching resume"?  Does prior success at Stanford not count as "credentials", e.g., Anderson generally with the D, Turner with TE U, Akina and all of the impressive DBs he has coached (including at Stanford), Gould with Love and Cal RBs (Beast Mode, Anderson, etc.).  I also seem to recall others being impressed with the NFL credentials of Reynolds and Carberry, and collegiate credentials of Kennedy and Alamar.  I agree that it is hard to judge Tavita in view of Shaw's influence on the offense and I do think that coaching staff should deeply reflect internally in view of this season's results, but I do not think we should discount credentials built up internally or even credentials, generally.  There is a reason why those that we are praising on Cal's staff are former HCs or assistants at other programs.

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Wilcox is a good coach. Has done a great job bringing a program from the abyss to mediocrity.  Let’s see if he can take the next step. 

As for Shaw, let’s see what 2020 brings. ‘19 was his first bad season.  If 2020 is another bad year, there will be changes.

Would have to disagree that, with wins over Stanford, UCLA, Washington and an SEC team on the road, 8-5 is mediocrity. Imagine if Garbers hadn't been hurt. Amazing after Garbers 3 interception performance in the Cheez-it Bowl he became such a good QB. Coaching?

And as for 2020, if it is another bad year, I really doubt there will be changes.

QBs mature. Costello made a big jump. Had a terrific year in ‘19. Got hurt. But we all know Shaw is the worst coach in America. So certainly any improvement of any player is happenstance.

Speaking for myself, I'm not quite ready yet to write Shaw off as a lousy coach and write on Wilcox as a great one. We'll see how 2020 goes.

Does one bad year overshadow prior success at Stanford regarding "coaching resume"?  Does prior success at Stanford not count as "credentials", e.g., Anderson generally with the D, Turner with TE U, Akina and all of the impressive DBs he has coached (including at Stanford), Gould with Love and Cal RBs (Beast Mode, Anderson, etc.).  I also seem to recall others being impressed with the NFL credentials of Reynolds and Carberry, and collegiate credentials of Kennedy and Alamar.  I agree that it is hard to judge Tavita in view of Shaw's influence on the offense and I do think that coaching staff should deeply reflect internally in view of this season's results, but I do not think we should discount credentials built up internally or even credentials, generally.  There is a reason why those that we are praising on Cal's staff are former HCs or assistants at other programs.