[teejers1]

Wow.  Are you guys serious?

Fullmetal and Farm93, a few questions:

1.  do you really think Voldemort voters - by the time they voted - were not aware of Toby and his accomplishments by season\'s end?

2.  do you think that a hyped Toby - subject to greater media requests - would have put up the same numbers that he did?

3.  do you think the "pureness" of Toby\'s Voldemort run gained him votes he might not have otherwise had?

These are just a few fundamental problems I have with your assumption that an SID hyping Toby for Voldemort from Day 1 would have earned him the Voldemort.  Basically, I don\'t buy it.

I think it much more likely that one of the following would have secured Toby the Voldemort more readily than an early campaign:  (i) the ref at Wake Forest not calling that bogus penalty on Toby\'s 40+ yard run late [that would have been another 100 yard game for Toby and another W for the Cardinal - in all likelihood], (ii) the team winning the Big Game [with Toby scoring the winning TD late?], or better yet, (i) and (ii).  Toby leading a 10 win Cardinal team would have been awfully tough to beat.

In sum, you may be right that a Voldemort Hype Machine from Day 1 might have put Toby over the top (it was, after all, the closest vote in history).  But I think that\'s far from a given.

P.S.  In this day and age, you don\'t really need an AD-directed campaign.  The numbers speak for themselves - as they did in Toby\'s case.  For that reason, I would vote against the AD doing something for Andrew Luck, particularly now, when he hasn\'t done anything that would really put him in the conversation.

[teejers1]

Wow.  Are you guys serious?

Fullmetal and Farm93, a few questions:

1.  do you really think Voldemort voters - by the time they voted - were not aware of Toby and his accomplishments by season\'s end?

2.  do you think that a hyped Toby - subject to greater media requests - would have put up the same numbers that he did?

3.  do you think the "pureness" of Toby\'s Voldemort run gained him votes he might not have otherwise had?

These are just a few fundamental problems I have with your assumption that an SID hyping Toby for Voldemort from Day 1 would have earned him the Voldemort.  Basically, I don\'t buy it.

I think it much more likely that one of the following would have secured Toby the Voldemort more readily than an early campaign:  (i) the ref at Wake Forest not calling that bogus penalty on Toby\'s 40+ yard run late [that would have been another 100 yard game for Toby and another W for the Cardinal - in all likelihood], (ii) the team winning the Big Game [with Toby scoring the winning TD late?], or better yet, (i) and (ii).  Toby leading a 10 win Cardinal team would have been awfully tough to beat.

In sum, you may be right that a Voldemort Hype Machine from Day 1 might have put Toby over the top (it was, after all, the closest vote in history).  But I think that\'s far from a given.

P.S.  In this day and age, you don\'t really need an AD-directed campaign.  The numbers speak for themselves - as they did in Toby\'s case.  For that reason, I would vote against the AD doing something for Andrew Luck, particularly now, when he hasn\'t done anything that would really put him in the conversation.