[NDIrish]

You are talking about a coach who has been to three Rose Bowls in four years and five BCS caliber bowls in his tenure and never had a losing season.  He has more goodwill accumulated than Santa and the Tooth Fairy combined.

It's hard to remember, because the last two games have been so awful, but we still have a winning record after having gone through the hardest portion of our schedule.

Not to say that we shouldn't be playing better.  But David Shaw's seat is colder than Elsa's ice castle in Frozen.

What's the feeling in South Bend these days (among the sane people; I am sure there are people who call for Kelly's head after every loss)?  The ND faithful tends to have a bit more of a "what have you done for me lately?" attitude than we do, but he has never done worse than 8-5, and has a 12-1 season with a trip to the  National Championship in his back pocket.  And he has a better record than anyone since Lou Holtz (though that kind of ignores the fact that both Willingham and Weiss were fired).

BC

Find me a sane fan.... lol

There are a lot of people calling for Kelly's head, and maybe their right, it could be time for him to go, but their reasons and attitudes are wrong.  It is hard for me to read if it's just a bad year or if this job has emotionally drained him.  I think the university will give him next year regardless, but if they do ax him, I  expect him to do well wherever he goes.  Regardless ND fans should thank Kelly for what he has done for the university to date.  I think the university is struggling due to his success, they put more guys in the NFL last year than they have in a long time and for the first time in a long time they have been putting underclassman in, and they didn't have the depth to lose juniors early. 

I do think he needs to find a way or hire someone who can develop freshman faster though.  There are a lot of teams playing with freshman and they look ready to go, ours take a year to get there.

For the first time I am starting to wonder if he is a long term solution but it's not because of their record, just a lot of little things.

I have a much longer rant explaining my feelings on this but I'm not going to type it all on my phone

[NDIrish]

You are talking about a coach who has been to three Rose Bowls in four years and five BCS caliber bowls in his tenure and never had a losing season.  He has more goodwill accumulated than Santa and the Tooth Fairy combined.

It's hard to remember, because the last two games have been so awful, but we still have a winning record after having gone through the hardest portion of our schedule.

Not to say that we shouldn't be playing better.  But David Shaw's seat is colder than Elsa's ice castle in Frozen.

What's the feeling in South Bend these days (among the sane people; I am sure there are people who call for Kelly's head after every loss)?  The ND faithful tends to have a bit more of a "what have you done for me lately?" attitude than we do, but he has never done worse than 8-5, and has a 12-1 season with a trip to the  National Championship in his back pocket.  And he has a better record than anyone since Lou Holtz (though that kind of ignores the fact that both Willingham and Weiss were fired).

BC

Find me a sane fan.... lol

There are a lot of people calling for Kelly's head, and maybe their right, it could be time for him to go, but their reasons and attitudes are wrong.  It is hard for me to read if it's just a bad year or if this job has emotionally drained him.  I think the university will give him next year regardless, but if they do ax him, I  expect him to do well wherever he goes.  Regardless ND fans should thank Kelly for what he has done for the university to date.  I think the university is struggling due to his success, they put more guys in the NFL last year than they have in a long time and for the first time in a long time they have been putting underclassman in, and they didn't have the depth to lose juniors early. 

I do think he needs to find a way or hire someone who can develop freshman faster though.  There are a lot of teams playing with freshman and they look ready to go, ours take a year to get there.

For the first time I am starting to wonder if he is a long term solution but it's not because of their record, just a lot of little things.

I have a much longer rant explaining my feelings on this but I'm not going to type it all on my phone