[JohnR34231]

More ND bitterness: http://www.ndnation.com/boards/showpost....4031;d=all

One poster seems to believe that if N.D. had beaten Stanford last year we couldn't've won the Rose Bowl.

What I find odd is the level of... proprietary feelings these fans have. Whatever the appropriateness with respect to the players -- who get to go wherever they want, after all -- the weirdness of still condescending to Stanford is striking. How long does it take for reality to puncture their bubble?

It seemed to me that rather than being condescending now, they are wistful about the days when they could be condescending.

[JohnR34231]

More ND bitterness: http://www.ndnation.com/boards/showpost....4031;d=all

One poster seems to believe that if N.D. had beaten Stanford last year we couldn't've won the Rose Bowl.

What I find odd is the level of... proprietary feelings these fans have. Whatever the appropriateness with respect to the players -- who get to go wherever they want, after all -- the weirdness of still condescending to Stanford is striking. How long does it take for reality to puncture their bubble?

It seemed to me that rather than being condescending now, they are wistful about the days when they could be condescending.