[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

David Shaw has coached 54 games at Stanford. In the last 50 years, the following coaches have coached that many or more games

John Ralston
Tyrone Willingham
Bill Walsh (over two stints)
Jack Elway
and Jack Christiansen

That's it. And yet, somehow, David Shaw still hasn't coached enough games to prove he's a good coach.

Only six coaches in Stanford history have had higher winning percentages than David Shaw, and three of those were single season coaches. Half the guys who are ahead of Shaw are in the College Football Hall of Fame, yet, somehow, David Shaw hasn't proven that he can coach.

Only Clark T-Formation Shaughnessy has a higher conference winning percentage than Shaw, yet somehow, there hasn't been enough time to figure out whether Shaw can coach.

Only one other coach in the last 50 years has had teams in back-to-back Rose Bowls, and yet somehow, David Shaw hasn't had enough time to prove he can coach.

Yes, Harbaugh built a great foundation, and I'm sure everyone here is grateful for that, but it's about time you give this man his due.

I have never stated nor have I implied that Shaw is not a good coach.  I don't mind having this discussion but I don't appreciate straw men.

If you feel I don't give Shaw his due then perhaps that's my fault.  Shaw has had a very impressive tenure at Stanford.  The issue is whether his tenure would have been as impressive had he not succeeded Harbaugh.  What would Shaw have done if, in a hypothetical universe, he had succeeded Harris in 2007?  Would he have won two conference titles and a Rose Bowl in his first three seasons?  I have a very hard time believing so.  What would you say?

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

David Shaw has coached 54 games at Stanford. In the last 50 years, the following coaches have coached that many or more games

John Ralston
Tyrone Willingham
Bill Walsh (over two stints)
Jack Elway
and Jack Christiansen

That's it. And yet, somehow, David Shaw still hasn't coached enough games to prove he's a good coach.

Only six coaches in Stanford history have had higher winning percentages than David Shaw, and three of those were single season coaches. Half the guys who are ahead of Shaw are in the College Football Hall of Fame, yet, somehow, David Shaw hasn't proven that he can coach.

Only Clark T-Formation Shaughnessy has a higher conference winning percentage than Shaw, yet somehow, there hasn't been enough time to figure out whether Shaw can coach.

Only one other coach in the last 50 years has had teams in back-to-back Rose Bowls, and yet somehow, David Shaw hasn't had enough time to prove he can coach.

Yes, Harbaugh built a great foundation, and I'm sure everyone here is grateful for that, but it's about time you give this man his due.

I have never stated nor have I implied that Shaw is not a good coach.  I don't mind having this discussion but I don't appreciate straw men.

If you feel I don't give Shaw his due then perhaps that's my fault.  Shaw has had a very impressive tenure at Stanford.  The issue is whether his tenure would have been as impressive had he not succeeded Harbaugh.  What would Shaw have done if, in a hypothetical universe, he had succeeded Harris in 2007?  Would he have won two conference titles and a Rose Bowl in his first three seasons?  I have a very hard time believing so.  What would you say?