[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

[quote author=ThePassionOfTheChryst link=topic=12951.msg131323#msg131323 date=1443407418]
[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=12951.msg131310#msg131310 date=1443404487]Ps: I find it amusing that some of the biggest Shawtagonist are the biggest bandwaggers.

I think there is a difference between being a "Shawtagonist" and just not being sold on him yet.  The very nature of college athletics, especially football, means that there is a period of time in a new coach's administration when blame - or praise - should be shared with his or her predecessor.  That period is typically 3ish years.  Year four was obviously a big letdown (by Stanford's recent standards).  Year five will tell the tale, and it didn't get off to a good start.  However, it has rebounded.  We'll see come December.
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So, by that logic, are you willing to attribute Harbaugh's success in his third year to Harris? I didn't think so.
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Harbaugh took over a 1-win team and re-built the program from the ground up.  Shaw took over a ready-made national title contender.  I don't get the comparison.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

[quote author=ThePassionOfTheChryst link=topic=12951.msg131323#msg131323 date=1443407418]
[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=12951.msg131310#msg131310 date=1443404487]Ps: I find it amusing that some of the biggest Shawtagonist are the biggest bandwaggers.

I think there is a difference between being a "Shawtagonist" and just not being sold on him yet.  The very nature of college athletics, especially football, means that there is a period of time in a new coach's administration when blame - or praise - should be shared with his or her predecessor.  That period is typically 3ish years.  Year four was obviously a big letdown (by Stanford's recent standards).  Year five will tell the tale, and it didn't get off to a good start.  However, it has rebounded.  We'll see come December.
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So, by that logic, are you willing to attribute Harbaugh's success in his third year to Harris? I didn't think so.
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Harbaugh took over a 1-win team and re-built the program from the ground up.  Shaw took over a ready-made national title contender.  I don't get the comparison.