[Spiny_Norman]

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[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=12118.msg118090#msg118090 date=1431366019]
Stewart Mandel says that the grad transfer rule may be history soon.  Why?  Coaches and administrators don't like the freedom it affords the "student-athletes."  One admin said, "I don't think [the rule] fits into the core values of intercollegiate athletics . . . The kid from Eastern Washington is going to Oregon -- and [Eastern Washington is] opening the season [against] them. It just doesn't feel right."

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...del-051115

Mandel does quote David Shaw's position as a counter to the hypocrisy of coaches and admins who might want to block these transfers.

I don't get the admin's reasoning there.  Allowing a student to pursue their interest in graduate education and placing athletic concerns secondary to that goes against the purpose of intercollegiate athletics?
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I'm very skeptical that the majority of these transfers have anything to do with education. I think in the case of some of the guys that left Stanford to go to other programs, maybe some of it is interest in a particular graduate program. I think the majority of these graduate transfers are more about where they can get the most playing time.

I wouldn't mind getting rid of the graduate transfer rule, if there were some meaningful penalties or mechanisms put in place to prevent coaches from doing the same thing.
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Dabigv, you are correct to be skeptical.  Mandel cites an NCAA study which found that 40% of graduate transfers drop out of school after one semester.  But the coaches and admins are speaking about protecting their interests, not those of the schools or the athletes.

[Spiny_Norman]

[quote author=French Rage link=topic=12118.msg118091#msg118091 date=1431366971]
[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=12118.msg118090#msg118090 date=1431366019]
Stewart Mandel says that the grad transfer rule may be history soon.  Why?  Coaches and administrators don't like the freedom it affords the "student-athletes."  One admin said, "I don't think [the rule] fits into the core values of intercollegiate athletics . . . The kid from Eastern Washington is going to Oregon -- and [Eastern Washington is] opening the season [against] them. It just doesn't feel right."

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...del-051115

Mandel does quote David Shaw's position as a counter to the hypocrisy of coaches and admins who might want to block these transfers.

I don't get the admin's reasoning there.  Allowing a student to pursue their interest in graduate education and placing athletic concerns secondary to that goes against the purpose of intercollegiate athletics?
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I'm very skeptical that the majority of these transfers have anything to do with education. I think in the case of some of the guys that left Stanford to go to other programs, maybe some of it is interest in a particular graduate program. I think the majority of these graduate transfers are more about where they can get the most playing time.

I wouldn't mind getting rid of the graduate transfer rule, if there were some meaningful penalties or mechanisms put in place to prevent coaches from doing the same thing.
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Dabigv, you are correct to be skeptical.  Mandel cites an NCAA study which found that 40% of graduate transfers drop out of school after one semester.  But the coaches and admins are speaking about protecting their interests, not those of the schools or the athletes.