08-18-2022, 07:10 PM
Harrison's latest... 6IP, 0 runs, 2 hits, ZERO BB, 10K.
Bring him up. And hire the D Backs pitching coach.
Bring him up. And hire the D Backs pitching coach.
(08-19-2022, 04:49 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The Giants are a .500 team. The teams they are chasing are simply better. There is no uncertainty they will miss the playoffs, just the uncertainty of by how many games?
Otherwise, let Bart play every game the rest of the way and bring up some guys from AA in September after the playoffs are done to give the fans a reason to pay attention.
(08-19-2022, 04:49 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The Giants are a .500 team. The teams they are chasing are simply better. There is no uncertainty they will miss the playoffs, just the uncertainty of by how many games?
Otherwise, let Bart play every game the rest of the way and bring up some guys from AA in September after the playoffs are done to give the fans a reason to pay attention.
(08-19-2022, 06:34 AM)Mick Wrote:(08-19-2022, 04:49 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The Giants are a .500 team. The teams they are chasing are simply better. There is no uncertainty they will miss the playoffs, just the uncertainty of by how many games?
Otherwise, let Bart play every game the rest of the way and bring up some guys from AA in September after the playoffs are done to give the fans a reason to pay attention.
Good idea. Along those lines, I wonder how many Robby Thompsons are out there?
The conventional wisdom is that most PCL players will bat 60-120 points below their eventual MLB averages. There are some players, on the lower end, that are simply AAAA, too good for the PCL, not good enough for MLB. And there are a handful like Robby Thompson, who make the jump from AA and had these stat lines:
AA .261/.358/.370/.698
MLB .271/.328/.370/.698
Robby was a two-time All-Star, led the league in triples one year, won a gold glove, came up with Will Clark. Really solid player. Hope we have some of those in our minor league system.
(08-19-2022, 06:34 AM)Mick Wrote:(08-19-2022, 04:49 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The Giants are a .500 team. The teams they are chasing are simply better. There is no uncertainty they will miss the playoffs, just the uncertainty of by how many games?
Otherwise, let Bart play every game the rest of the way and bring up some guys from AA in September after the playoffs are done to give the fans a reason to pay attention.
Good idea. Along those lines, I wonder how many Robby Thompsons are out there?
The conventional wisdom is that most PCL players will bat 60-120 points below their eventual MLB averages. There are some players, on the lower end, that are simply AAAA, too good for the PCL, not good enough for MLB. And there are a handful like Robby Thompson, who make the jump from AA and had these stat lines:
AA .261/.358/.370/.698
MLB .271/.328/.370/.698
Robby was a two-time All-Star, led the league in triples one year, won a gold glove, came up with Will Clark. Really solid player. Hope we have some of those in our minor league system.
(08-19-2022, 07:53 AM)Phogge Wrote: Ramos has fallen to #18 on Giants prospect list.
And Lex baby, the Dodgers brought up Urias when he was 20. Make Harrison one of your two Sept callups and give him a taste.
The 26 man Dodger team probably has 23 guys better than the Giants 26. Drastic measures are demanded.
(08-19-2022, 07:53 AM)Phogge Wrote: Ramos has fallen to #18 on Giants prospect list.
And Lex baby, the Dodgers brought up Urias when he was 20. Make Harrison one of your two Sept callups and give him a taste.
The 26 man Dodger team probably has 23 guys better than the Giants 26. Drastic measures are demanded.
(08-20-2022, 11:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Luciano with a grand slam last night
(08-20-2022, 11:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Luciano with a grand slam last night
(08-20-2022, 11:45 AM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2022, 11:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Luciano with a grand slam last night
Time to fast track Luciano. If he’s not with the Giants by June 1 next year, I’ll be disappointed. They don’t have to go through all levels first. Look at Micheal Harris for the Braves.
Then there is Bob Horner. But that was a loooonnng time ago.
(08-20-2022, 11:45 AM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2022, 11:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Luciano with a grand slam last night
Time to fast track Luciano. If he’s not with the Giants by June 1 next year, I’ll be disappointed. They don’t have to go through all levels first. Look at Micheal Harris for the Braves.
Then there is Bob Horner. But that was a loooonnng time ago.
(08-20-2022, 11:57 AM)Giants Wrote:(08-20-2022, 11:45 AM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2022, 11:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Luciano with a grand slam last night
Time to fast track Luciano. If he’s not with the Giants by June 1 next year, I’ll be disappointed. They don’t have to go through all levels first. Look at Micheal Harris for the Braves.
Then there is Bob Horner. But that was a loooonnng time ago.
My guesses:
Luciano will start at Richmond with the possibility of skipping Sacramento if warranted. We can hope that he makes up some lost ground when he plays in the winter league in the Dominican. Who knows, if he plays well, he might skip AA, and go directly to AAA. Regardless, with Crawford under contract for one more season, Luciano is on track to take over SS full time in 2024.
Harrison will bump up to Sacramento and be with the big club by the end of the season.
(08-20-2022, 11:57 AM)Giants Wrote:(08-20-2022, 11:45 AM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2022, 11:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Luciano with a grand slam last night
Time to fast track Luciano. If he’s not with the Giants by June 1 next year, I’ll be disappointed. They don’t have to go through all levels first. Look at Micheal Harris for the Braves.
Then there is Bob Horner. But that was a loooonnng time ago.
My guesses:
Luciano will start at Richmond with the possibility of skipping Sacramento if warranted. We can hope that he makes up some lost ground when he plays in the winter league in the Dominican. Who knows, if he plays well, he might skip AA, and go directly to AAA. Regardless, with Crawford under contract for one more season, Luciano is on track to take over SS full time in 2024.
Harrison will bump up to Sacramento and be with the big club by the end of the season.
(08-21-2022, 06:20 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: My vantage point suggests the Giants have 5 potentially ready for MLB in 2023 prospects:
- SP Kyle Harrison (21) AA
- 3B Casey Schmitt (23) AA
- SS Marco Luciano (20) A+ (would have been promoted to AA already if not for back strain)
- OF Vaun Brown (24) A+ (dominating with 5 tools, and has earned promotion to AA)
- OF Heliot Ramos (22) AAA (yes, he has struggled this year, but is still pretty young)
I watched some YouTube video of every Luciano AB in Giants Spring Training games this past February. He looked largely overmatched against fringe MLB pitching talent. Lots of swings and misses and not much hard contact. Clearly was not ready this year.
(08-21-2022, 06:20 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: My vantage point suggests the Giants have 5 potentially ready for MLB in 2023 prospects:
- SP Kyle Harrison (21) AA
- 3B Casey Schmitt (23) AA
- SS Marco Luciano (20) A+ (would have been promoted to AA already if not for back strain)
- OF Vaun Brown (24) A+ (dominating with 5 tools, and has earned promotion to AA)
- OF Heliot Ramos (22) AAA (yes, he has struggled this year, but is still pretty young)
I watched some YouTube video of every Luciano AB in Giants Spring Training games this past February. He looked largely overmatched against fringe MLB pitching talent. Lots of swings and misses and not much hard contact. Clearly was not ready this year.
(08-21-2022, 01:22 PM)BobK Wrote: Good analysis Lex thanks.
Good bye please to LaStella and Belt. Belt doesn’t want to be here at all he’s given up. A sad ending to what always a very good 2021
If a rebuilt screw the Giants says this fan of so very long. Pre SF
Need a 1st Base and 3rd Base and OFer. And 5 pitchers
(08-21-2022, 01:22 PM)BobK Wrote: Good analysis Lex thanks.
Good bye please to LaStella and Belt. Belt doesn’t want to be here at all he’s given up. A sad ending to what always a very good 2021
If a rebuilt screw the Giants says this fan of so very long. Pre SF
Need a 1st Base and 3rd Base and OFer. And 5 pitchers
(08-22-2022, 05:45 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-21-2022, 01:22 PM)BobK Wrote: Good analysis Lex thanks.
Good bye please to LaStella and Belt. Belt doesn’t want to be here at all he’s given up. A sad ending to what always a very good 2021
If a rebuilt screw the Giants says this fan of so very long. Pre SF
Need a 1st Base and 3rd Base and OFer. And 5 pitchers
That’s a lot of needs!
(08-22-2022, 05:45 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-21-2022, 01:22 PM)BobK Wrote: Good analysis Lex thanks.
Good bye please to LaStella and Belt. Belt doesn’t want to be here at all he’s given up. A sad ending to what always a very good 2021
If a rebuilt screw the Giants says this fan of so very long. Pre SF
Need a 1st Base and 3rd Base and OFer. And 5 pitchers
That’s a lot of needs!