11-28-2021, 01:59 PM
First reaction: crap!
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Lincoln Riley to USC
11-28-2021, 02:04 PM
Wow, big surprise! Wonder what motivated that move? Better weather? If you look at recent years, Oklahoma has been by far the more successful program.
Wow, big surprise! Wonder what motivated that move? Better weather? If you look at recent years, Oklahoma has been by far the more successful program.
11-28-2021, 02:08 PM
Beat you to it. And I had the same reaction as you did.
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in building one.
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
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I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in building one.
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
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Beat you to it. And I had the same reaction as you did.
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in building one.
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
BC
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in building one.
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
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11-28-2021, 02:10 PM
Not surprised at all. Lincoln Riley doesn't want to deal with a super competitive conference. He likes winning it virtually every year and rightfully believes he can do so at USC given the quality of the Pac-12. I think this is good for the conference given the lackluster product it has been producing.
Not surprised at all. Lincoln Riley doesn't want to deal with a super competitive conference. He likes winning it virtually every year and rightfully believes he can do so at USC given the quality of the Pac-12. I think this is good for the conference given the lackluster product it has been producing.
11-28-2021, 02:11 PM
A further add, Riley apparently was LSU’s first choice as well, so say what you want about USC, they beat out two premier schools for Riley.
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A further add, Riley apparently was LSU’s first choice as well, so say what you want about USC, they beat out two premier schools for Riley.
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11-28-2021, 02:11 PM
(11-28-2021, 02:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Beat you to it. And I had the same reaction as you did.
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in building one.
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
BC
Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
(11-28-2021, 02:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Beat you to it. And I had the same reaction as you did.
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in building one.
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
BC
Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
11-28-2021, 02:13 PM
Also, no west coast ties that I can find. He’s from Texas, played at Texas Tech, and coached at Texas Tech, east Carolina, and Oklahoma.
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Also, no west coast ties that I can find. He’s from Texas, played at Texas Tech, and coached at Texas Tech, east Carolina, and Oklahoma.
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11-28-2021, 02:14 PM
(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Beat you to it. And I had the same reaction as you did.
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in buil
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
BC
Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
yes Franklin did sign a big $$$ and long term contract with Penn State
(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Beat you to it. And I had the same reaction as you did.
I think the move is interesting. Riley must believe that he has an easier path to winning in the PAC-12 than in the SEC, but I am surprised nonetheless. Oklahoma in the SEC should be able to amass ginormous amounts of money, and I can only believe that some USC donors just opened their pocketbooks.
The only thing you can hope for is that Riley is much better continuing an excellent program that he took over from Bob Stoops, than he is in buil
So, I wonder if Oklahoma makes a run at Franklin, who has experience in the SEC at Vandy.
BC
Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
yes Franklin did sign a big $$$ and long term contract with Penn State
11-28-2021, 02:17 PM
(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
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(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
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11-28-2021, 02:29 PM
I did not realize that Santa Clara was re-starting their football program! I bet the Domers are not too happy!
I did not realize that Santa Clara was re-starting their football program! I bet the Domers are not too happy!
11-28-2021, 02:44 PM
I think we’re still competing with SC for what would be the top recruit in the current class, David Bailey. The elimination of uncertainty at SC and the hiring of a marquee coach might seal our fate. I hope not.
I think we’re still competing with SC for what would be the top recruit in the current class, David Bailey. The elimination of uncertainty at SC and the hiring of a marquee coach might seal our fate. I hope not.
USC can now achieve their dream of getting blown out in a semifinal game.
11-28-2021, 03:12 PM
(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
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at roughly $3M per win, no one makes Shaw look undercompensated.
(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
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at roughly $3M per win, no one makes Shaw look undercompensated.
11-28-2021, 03:30 PM
I wonder if many Sooners will enter the transfer portal to follow him to USC.....
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
in other coaching hires
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f...story.html
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ources-say
WSU stays with Jake Dickert
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-...ching-job/
Quote:The University of Florida will hire Louisiana-Lafayette’s Billy Napier as the Gators’ next head football and the man to stabilize one of the nation’s top programs for the first time in more than a decade.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f...story.html
Quote:TCU Horned Frogs tab SMU Mustangs coach Sonny Dykes as next head football coach, sources say
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ources-say
WSU stays with Jake Dickert
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-...ching-job/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
in other coaching hires
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f...story.html
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ources-say
WSU stays with Jake Dickert
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-...ching-job/
Quote:The University of Florida will hire Louisiana-Lafayette’s Billy Napier as the Gators’ next head football and the man to stabilize one of the nation’s top programs for the first time in more than a decade.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f...story.html
Quote:TCU Horned Frogs tab SMU Mustangs coach Sonny Dykes as next head football coach, sources say
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ources-say
WSU stays with Jake Dickert
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-...ching-job/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
11-28-2021, 04:23 PM
(11-28-2021, 03:12 PM)slide Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
BC
at roughly $3M per win, no one makes Shaw look undercompensated.
Shaw makes 279 million? Wow…….
(11-28-2021, 03:12 PM)slide Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
BC
at roughly $3M per win, no one makes Shaw look undercompensated.
Shaw makes 279 million? Wow…….
11-28-2021, 04:35 PM
(11-28-2021, 04:23 PM)lex24 Wrote:(11-28-2021, 03:12 PM)slide Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
BC
at roughly $3M per win, no one makes Shaw look undercompensated.
Shaw makes 279 million? Wow…….
LOL
(11-28-2021, 04:23 PM)lex24 Wrote:(11-28-2021, 03:12 PM)slide Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
BC
at roughly $3M per win, no one makes Shaw look undercompensated.
Shaw makes 279 million? Wow…….
LOL
11-28-2021, 05:29 PM
(11-28-2021, 02:13 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Also, no west coast ties that I can find. He’s from Texas, played at Texas Tech, and coached at Texas Tech, east Carolina, and Oklahoma.FWIW there is a rumor out there that Lincoln Riley expects to be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys within two years. Supposedly Jerry Jones wanted him earlier, but the football staff talked him out of it because Riley was too young and inexperienced. This move is a bit of a safety play. He broadens his experience base. Things aren't looking too rosy in Oklahoma in the immediate future so he may lose a bit of luster if he stays there. At U$C, he will be "rebuilding" so that if they suddenly start winning he is a genius and if they don't it is not unexpected. He gets lots of money and moves back home after two years.
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No way of knowing how accurate this is, but it is certainly an interesting possibility.
(11-28-2021, 02:13 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Also, no west coast ties that I can find. He’s from Texas, played at Texas Tech, and coached at Texas Tech, east Carolina, and Oklahoma.FWIW there is a rumor out there that Lincoln Riley expects to be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys within two years. Supposedly Jerry Jones wanted him earlier, but the football staff talked him out of it because Riley was too young and inexperienced. This move is a bit of a safety play. He broadens his experience base. Things aren't looking too rosy in Oklahoma in the immediate future so he may lose a bit of luster if he stays there. At U$C, he will be "rebuilding" so that if they suddenly start winning he is a genius and if they don't it is not unexpected. He gets lots of money and moves back home after two years.
BC
No way of knowing how accurate this is, but it is certainly an interesting possibility.
11-28-2021, 05:50 PM
(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
BC
Even mid-tier teams in Power 5 conferences are paying $5 million per year before bonuses, so that's why I always found it curious that many were upset about the idea that 2 time Rose Bowl winner Coach Shaw getting $9 million, especially when one remembers the $9 million included deferred salary from earlier years and possibly included bonuses for multiple Rose Bowl wins and even a top 5 finish.
Doesn't really matter how much Shaw is getting I guess. For a school to get a CFP/NY6 level coach and keep that coach for more than one season probably will cost $8+ million per year in a 5 year contract with a lot of that guaranteed. And if your school lacks the opportunity to land easy promotion money (see. Saban and AFLAC) then it likely will be $10 million or more per year soon.
LSU was set to pay big money for a coach, reportedly in the $12-$13 million range. I can only guess USC is going to pay something in that same range. It is really hard to believe Oklahoma will thrive in the first few years in the SEC, so I think the coach made a great move. He should be able to convince a wave of LA based recruits that HE knows what it takes to get to the CFP even if the Pac-12 is clueless.
(11-28-2021, 02:17 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-28-2021, 02:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: Wow! Maybe Pac becomes more relevant? Didn't Franklin just sign a big long term K?
Yeah, good find.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-contract
Makes Shaw look cheap in comparison. Also, I didn’t realize Penn State finished 7-5. That’s gotta be disappointing for a team expected to challenge Ohio State and Michigan for the BigTen title.
BC
Even mid-tier teams in Power 5 conferences are paying $5 million per year before bonuses, so that's why I always found it curious that many were upset about the idea that 2 time Rose Bowl winner Coach Shaw getting $9 million, especially when one remembers the $9 million included deferred salary from earlier years and possibly included bonuses for multiple Rose Bowl wins and even a top 5 finish.
Doesn't really matter how much Shaw is getting I guess. For a school to get a CFP/NY6 level coach and keep that coach for more than one season probably will cost $8+ million per year in a 5 year contract with a lot of that guaranteed. And if your school lacks the opportunity to land easy promotion money (see. Saban and AFLAC) then it likely will be $10 million or more per year soon.
LSU was set to pay big money for a coach, reportedly in the $12-$13 million range. I can only guess USC is going to pay something in that same range. It is really hard to believe Oklahoma will thrive in the first few years in the SEC, so I think the coach made a great move. He should be able to convince a wave of LA based recruits that HE knows what it takes to get to the CFP even if the Pac-12 is clueless.
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