[dabomb1227]

Josh Norris at Rotoworld has some high ranking on Stanford prospects: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/52...is-top-125

Henry Anderson at 11: "He might play with high pad level, but Anderson has tremendous strength through his hands and couples it with great length to press and push his opponent backwards. Will work best as a 3-tech, but might give some teams looks as a 5-tech. That versatility will be nice for teams who use multiple fronts. He displayed a variety of moves in 1 on 1s."

Andrus Peat at 25: "Much stronger moving forward than back. Outside of a few bad plays, improvement was evident in pass protection for Peat. Needs to use his strength and frame rather than relying on lateral movements."

Alex Carter is fairly low (compared to other evaluators) at 95.  Ty Montgomery not in the top 125

[dabomb1227]

Josh Norris at Rotoworld has some high ranking on Stanford prospects: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/52...is-top-125

Henry Anderson at 11: "He might play with high pad level, but Anderson has tremendous strength through his hands and couples it with great length to press and push his opponent backwards. Will work best as a 3-tech, but might give some teams looks as a 5-tech. That versatility will be nice for teams who use multiple fronts. He displayed a variety of moves in 1 on 1s."

Andrus Peat at 25: "Much stronger moving forward than back. Outside of a few bad plays, improvement was evident in pass protection for Peat. Needs to use his strength and frame rather than relying on lateral movements."

Alex Carter is fairly low (compared to other evaluators) at 95.  Ty Montgomery not in the top 125

[stupac2]

Interesting, I hadn't seen anything about Henry being that high. It sure would be nice to have a defender taken in the first after all these years of great defenses. Murphy's been our closest, right?

[stupac2]

Interesting, I hadn't seen anything about Henry being that high. It sure would be nice to have a defender taken in the first after all these years of great defenses. Murphy's been our closest, right?

[needle]

I'm remembering a thread from a couple of years ago. Henry Anderson's 20-yard shuttle time at the combine, 4.19 s, was, in fact, better than J.J. Watt's lumbering 4.21 s at the combine.

The rest of the categories? Watt had a, uh, slight advantage.

Watt
4.84 40-time
37 in. Vertical
34 bench reps
120-inch broad jump
6.88 three-cone drill
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/j.j....id=2495488

Goose
5.03 40-time
30 in. Vertical
No bench
110-inch broad jump
7.2 three-cone drill
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/h...id=2552272

Watt was drafted 11th overall, by the way. I have always thought that Goose is a first-round pick, but if he's drafted 11th overall that would raise my eyebrows more than a little bit.

[needle]

I'm remembering a thread from a couple of years ago. Henry Anderson's 20-yard shuttle time at the combine, 4.19 s, was, in fact, better than J.J. Watt's lumbering 4.21 s at the combine.

The rest of the categories? Watt had a, uh, slight advantage.

Watt
4.84 40-time
37 in. Vertical
34 bench reps
120-inch broad jump
6.88 three-cone drill
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/j.j....id=2495488

Goose
5.03 40-time
30 in. Vertical
No bench
110-inch broad jump
7.2 three-cone drill
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/h...id=2552272

Watt was drafted 11th overall, by the way. I have always thought that Goose is a first-round pick, but if he's drafted 11th overall that would raise my eyebrows more than a little bit.

[dabomb1227]

I doubt Henry goes that high.  Norris tends to focus on "where a player wins", which I believe is a valuable tool in assessing talent.  However, NFL teams often focus on potential and athletic metrics too often, in addition to misusing their assets (though NCAA teams do the same thing).

Peat will most likely (if not certainly) be the first Cardinal picked based on his potential and the value of the LT position.

For a player of Henry's size, his combine was extremely impressive

[dabomb1227]

I doubt Henry goes that high.  Norris tends to focus on "where a player wins", which I believe is a valuable tool in assessing talent.  However, NFL teams often focus on potential and athletic metrics too often, in addition to misusing their assets (though NCAA teams do the same thing).

Peat will most likely (if not certainly) be the first Cardinal picked based on his potential and the value of the LT position.

For a player of Henry's size, his combine was extremely impressive

[winflop]

From all I've read the only question about Peat is whether he cracks the top 10 or not.  He is unlikely to slip past 20.

Anderson is more likely a second-rounder.  JJ Watt was ready to start on day one of training camp I'm not sure Anderson is quite there but it's close.  And 4.19 vs. 4.21 is insignificant

Carter 2nd/3rd
Richards, Montgomery, Tarpley, Parry late rounds
Rest are likely UFAs

If that were to happen, I'd say that's a pretty solid draft class for Stanford football.

[winflop]

From all I've read the only question about Peat is whether he cracks the top 10 or not.  He is unlikely to slip past 20.

Anderson is more likely a second-rounder.  JJ Watt was ready to start on day one of training camp I'm not sure Anderson is quite there but it's close.  And 4.19 vs. 4.21 is insignificant

Carter 2nd/3rd
Richards, Montgomery, Tarpley, Parry late rounds
Rest are likely UFAs

If that were to happen, I'd say that's a pretty solid draft class for Stanford football.

[stupac2]

Montgomery, Tarpley, Parry late rounds

I remember reading an analysis that said one team drafting in the teens could target Montgomery. This was before the combine, but it still seemed really high on Montgomery to me.

[stupac2]

Montgomery, Tarpley, Parry late rounds

I remember reading an analysis that said one team drafting in the teens could target Montgomery. This was before the combine, but it still seemed really high on Montgomery to me.

[dabomb1227]

I think with the number of good-very good WRs in this class and Ty's poor testing at the combine he is going to be pushed further and further down into the late rounds. 

One of the biggest issues for him will be his lack of short area quickness - something you often see when he is running a curl route and breaking back, he isn't able to quickly turn and takes a while to slow down which tips off the route to the DB.

I think Carter goes in the 2nd and could potentially sneak into the end of the first.  There is only one CB who I have seen ranked consistently ahead of him (Trae Waynes) while he seems to be grouped in the second tier of CBs

[dabomb1227]

I think with the number of good-very good WRs in this class and Ty's poor testing at the combine he is going to be pushed further and further down into the late rounds. 

One of the biggest issues for him will be his lack of short area quickness - something you often see when he is running a curl route and breaking back, he isn't able to quickly turn and takes a while to slow down which tips off the route to the DB.

I think Carter goes in the 2nd and could potentially sneak into the end of the first.  There is only one CB who I have seen ranked consistently ahead of him (Trae Waynes) while he seems to be grouped in the second tier of CBs

[MustardtheBallCarrier]

I think Montgomery goes undrafted, unless someone uses a late round pick on him as a return specialist.  Like Skov, I think that his draft stock was highest after his Freshman-year bowl performance.

[MustardtheBallCarrier]

I think Montgomery goes undrafted, unless someone uses a late round pick on him as a return specialist.  Like Skov, I think that his draft stock was highest after his Freshman-year bowl performance.

[Hulk01]

Another issue with Ty, and what compromises him even more in short areas, is that he allows the ball into his body instead of plucking and running.  That split second in securing the ball allows the defenders to get a step closer and close up what would have been open space.

I wish even more that we'd simply installed Ty at tailback last fall.  He's best once he has the ball secured in his hands.  Getting open, plucking the ball quickly, holding on--he had at least two key fumbles last year and nearly lost at least one more--and making guys miss do not appear to be strengths. He looks like a star and has a great burst on returns, but damn I agree--he might still be available in the sixth round.

[Hulk01]

Another issue with Ty, and what compromises him even more in short areas, is that he allows the ball into his body instead of plucking and running.  That split second in securing the ball allows the defenders to get a step closer and close up what would have been open space.

I wish even more that we'd simply installed Ty at tailback last fall.  He's best once he has the ball secured in his hands.  Getting open, plucking the ball quickly, holding on--he had at least two key fumbles last year and nearly lost at least one more--and making guys miss do not appear to be strengths. He looks like a star and has a great burst on returns, but damn I agree--he might still be available in the sixth round.

[donkey687]

Jordan Richards and Montgomery will likely be drafted ahead of Parry and Tarpley. I would be surprised if Tarpley is drafted. I wouldn't be surprised either way on Parry.

[donkey687]

Jordan Richards and Montgomery will likely be drafted ahead of Parry and Tarpley. I would be surprised if Tarpley is drafted. I wouldn't be surprised either way on Parry.

[Nan3cy]

I saw a mock draft in USA Today last week that had Peat dropping way down into the 20s (but still in the first round). That was the bad news. The good news was that he went to Stanford in Indianapolis. (It occurs to me I might have posted this already. Apologies if I'm repeating myself.)

[Nan3cy]

I saw a mock draft in USA Today last week that had Peat dropping way down into the 20s (but still in the first round). That was the bad news. The good news was that he went to Stanford in Indianapolis. (It occurs to me I might have posted this already. Apologies if I'm repeating myself.)

[winflop]

Jordan Richards and Montgomery will likely be drafted ahead of Parry and Tarpley. I would be surprised if Tarpley is drafted. I wouldn't be surprised either way on Parry.

Forgot about Richards wow I must have been on drugs.  Late rounder but I agree he will be drafted ahead of the Parry & Tarpley, probably Montgomery too

[winflop]

Jordan Richards and Montgomery will likely be drafted ahead of Parry and Tarpley. I would be surprised if Tarpley is drafted. I wouldn't be surprised either way on Parry.

Forgot about Richards wow I must have been on drugs.  Late rounder but I agree he will be drafted ahead of the Parry & Tarpley, probably Montgomery too