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New words - BostonCard - 08-26-2015

http://www.joe.ie/news/some-of-the-new-words-added-to-the-oxford-english-dictionary-will-make-you-feel-very-old/509670

I feel the new words might make some people here butthurt at the perceived microagression to the point they may ragequit.

BC


Re: New words - stupac2 - 08-26-2015

Those are all pretty defensible, IMO. Each one describes something that didn't quite have a precise word for it before, though I think ragequit could just as easily be hyphenated and be understood fine (I don't think the same is true for butthurt, since it's not actually describing the condition of one's butt being in pain).


Re: New words - CTcard - 08-26-2015

None of those words seem to be on the online version of the OED ... yet.


Re: New words - yvonne - 08-26-2015

It's not as big a deal as when the OED was a printed edition, but it seems kind of a waste to make an entry for a word that will be in existence for a year.

matcha, definitely
barbacoa, sure
butthurt, sure
manspreading, probably

The others are a waste of bits.




Re: New words - BostonCard - 08-26-2015

EDIT: If my post is TL; DR, just read Yvonne's.

I don't have a strong opinion on most words.  Our language constantly evolves, and I believe dictionaries are supposed to be a reflection of that; not arbiters of some ideal language.

Ethnic foods that are being mainstreamed (barbacoa and matcha) are reasonable.  Whatever I may think of them, butthurt and ragequit are used frequently in certain circles, enough that it makes sense to include them in a discussion.  We've certainly talked about microagressions here.

Redditor seams odd, since Reddit has only been around a decade and may be gone within a decade.  On the other hand, MacGuyver was first on TV 30 years ago, and hasn't been on since before I went to Stanford (1992).

Never heard of kayfabe or mecha and I have no idea what they mean. I'd never heard of manspreading either, but it drew a chuckle when I saw it.  I suppose it can join mancave in the dictionary (but wait, i just checked, mancave is not in the OED), and I suspect mansplaining is not far behind. Grexit and Brexit seem too topical to be included (at some point the crisis will either pass or come to a head, and the words will become largely irrelevant).  Manic pixie dream girl is an expression rather than a word, and seems a bit too hyperspecific (I've only heard it in the context of movie tropes). 

BC


Re: New words - stupac2 - 08-26-2015

Just to be clear, by "those" I meant the ones in BC's post. I think this annual hoopla about adding words is pretty dumb (the idea that the OED determines what counts as a word and that making it "into the dictionary" is meaningful is just laughable) so I didn't give it the click.


A clarification - BostonCard - 08-26-2015

http://time.com/4010748/oxford-dictionary-update-2015/

Quote:Oxford Dictionaries is the branch of the Oxford family that focuses on modern language—words that people are using now and how they’re using them—which makes their barriers to entry different than the venerable, historical Oxford English Dictionary. Their new words often arise from fresh technology and pop culture and might include Internet slang (like new entry pwnage) that would get laughed out of the OED’s admittance office.

The entire list of words, with definitions, is in the link.  Awesomsauce.

BC




Re: A clarification - Mick - 08-26-2015

(08-26-2015, 04:59 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:http://time.com/4010748/oxford-dictionary-update-2015/

Quote:Oxford Dictionaries is the branch of the Oxford family that focuses on modern language—words that people are using now and how they’re using them—which makes their barriers to entry different than the venerable, historical Oxford English Dictionary. Their new words often arise from fresh technology and pop culture and might include Internet slang (like new entry pwnage) that would get laughed out of the OED’s admittance office.

The entire list of words, with definitions, is in the link.  Awesomsauce.

BC


I remember my oldest saying "weak sauce" and "awesome sauce" in 2008...


Re: New words - Extra Point - 08-26-2015

(08-26-2015, 02:31 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:I don't have a strong opinion on most words.  Our language constantly evolves, and I believe dictionaries are supposed to be a reflection of that; not arbiters of some ideal language.

+1


Re: New words - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 08-27-2015

I have an issue with legitimizing the term "hangry," but I'm sure I'll get over it.


Re: New words - FarmBoy - 08-27-2015

I've been saying "weak sauce" for over 10 years. I never thought of it as a single word, though.


Re: New words - fullmetal - 08-27-2015

(08-27-2015, 06:06 AM)ThePassionOfTheChryst link Wrote:I have an issue with legitimizing the term "hangry," but I'm sure I'll get over it.

Have a Snickers...


Re: New words - jacketree - 08-27-2015

beer o’clock (noun): an appropriate time of day for starting to drink beer.  They mean beer thirty, right?

fatberg (noun): a very large mass of solid waste in a sewerage system, consisting especially of congealed fat and personal hygiene products that have been flushed down toilets.  Huh? I'm a professional and we've called this "meatcake" for years.  Or sometimes just "schit".


Re: New words - Roberton3 - 08-27-2015

(08-27-2015, 12:33 PM)jacketree link Wrote:fatberg (noun): a very large mass of solid waste in a sewerage system, consisting especially of congealed fat and personal hygiene products that have been flushed down toilets.  Huh? I'm a professional and we've called this "meatcake" for years.  Or sometimes just "schit".

Fatberg may be British.  All of the news stories I've seen about fatbergs have been from England (e.g., http://goo.gl/rMzbap).


Re: New words - BostonCard - 08-27-2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatberg

"Such deposits are officially referred to by this term by authorities at Thames Water in London, UK.[1][2]"

BC


I see a difference - Redrum - 08-27-2015

Between slangy words that bubble up and move through the populace to dictionaryness via  (wide enough)  exposure and adoption.  I have a problem with artificial words created for political or ideological motives.  That's right, microagression, I'm looking at you.  I have actually heard some of those words listed above when I'm out and about, almost always when around and overhearing younger people.  I have never encountered "microagression" anywhere but online in advocacy blogs and forums where a certain viewpoint prevails.  I can only hope that constrained trajectory continues.Â